Brandenburgia

[swamphen]

4 - Freedonia. ;D

You never know...   :D

[P3D]

Playinmg with Google Earth, I arrived at the following Brandenburgia. A bit cut down in size in order not to have too large area.



Lossless PNG file, a jpeg would be quite smaller.

[Borys]

Ahoj!
My views on NZ size are known.
Borys

[Korpen]

Hm, it seem i was not the only one to play around with maps of NBrandenburg.


It needs a bit more cleanup, and cities and such things needs to be added.

[P3D]

Another version, which I like better. Only three times the size of NZ. I also have a higher quality png map.



Swamphen, we need your comments here.

[Korpen]

Population density: it is likely heavy along the coasts, and along the Neue Dusseldorf-Seydlitzberg (Auckland-Wellington) spine, but otherwise the interior is very pastoral and agricultural.

Just like Switzerland  ...

And New Zealand has 2/3rds of the land surface of Japan, a mountainous country.  Japan had 49M in 1907 ...

Borys

Using the Netherlands and Japan as examples are a bit extreme...
Norway is a mountainous country of about the same size as Japan, and it hade a population of just over 2M in 1907...

If Brandenburg have the same kind of population density as Scandinavia (or Australia for that matter), a large area makes quite allot of sense.

[Ithekro]

Mountains, deserts, large inlands lakes, or polar regions make for reduced living area in the early 20th century.  Clever use of the original enlarged land mass given should be good enough for most things.

[Borys]

Ahoj!
I might be off on this - but wouldn't Japan - and New Zealand for that matter - have more plains than Norway? Hmm, wouldn't most of Norways plains be the tundra in Finnmark (or is that Nordmark?)?

And I'm quite sure that Japanese and New Zealandese climes are milder than Norway's.

Borys

[Korpen]

Ahoj!
I might be off on this - but wouldn't Japan - and New Zealand for that matter - have more plains than Norway? Hmm, wouldn't most of Norways plains be the tundra in Finnmark (or is that Nordmark?)?

And I'm quite sure that Japanese and New Zealandese climes are milder than Norway's.

Borys

The main agriculture are in Norway are the valleys and plains around Oslo, were most people live. So there are some plain in Norway outside the tundra. And yes, Japan have a far better climate for agriculture then Norway, but my point is that using two of the worlds by far most densely populated countries as benchmark might no be a good idea.

If New Brandenburg has a pop density equal to that of present day New Zeeland, it would have 10 times the area of NZ. We can take a look at South America as well, Argentina is about at same level as Brandenburgia, and have a population density of 14pers/km2 (NZ: 15/km2) today. It seems reasonable that New Brandenburg would have a population density on about the same level as those two countries. And even then it is quite high, Argentina only had about 6m people in it in 1907, compared to about 40m today.

[Borys]

Ahoj!
The UK (with all of Ireland) - 120,651 sq. m - 1891 had a population of 37,732,922, and 41,5M in 1901

New Zealand has 104,471 sq. m  -  I see no problem with 40M in 1908.

Borys

[Korpen]

Ahoj!
The UK (with all of Ireland) - 120,651 sq. m - 1891 had a population of 37,732,922, and 41,5M in 1901

New Zealand has 104,471 sq. m  -  I see no problem with 40M in 1908.

Borys

Hu? the UK are almost 245k sq. km.

A NZ with 40m people on it is basically a megapolis, which seems odd considering most people have lived on the island for only one or two generations. This is why I think Argentina is a much better role-model then the most densely populated places on earth.
I see no real reason why the Brandenburgia we got on the world map should not work, and little need to shrink it.

[Borys]

Ahoj!
These are square miles - I took the data from the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica :)

Let's not get carried away with the megalopolis bit - there are many places in the UK which are empty, like most of Scotland.

In N-verse Brandeburg could have had actively colonised New Zealand from 1680 onwards.

Borys

[swamphen]

Very nice maps, but that last one especially makes a hash of the canon, both what I've actually posted and the "head case"...er the way I envision things when I'm writing news posts.

As I've mentioned before, the "colony turned into Fatherland" aspect covers many evils explains why there's such a large area but such a small population for that area. Much of the interior is mountainous, especially the southern parts of the country - note how there are very few cities in the south, the 'Imperial Gauge' railroad lines have not been extended down there, and how the southernmost tip is more Celtic, ethincally, than German...

[P3D]

So which one is the one representing Brandenburgia, epsecially the location? I think  Brandenburgia=Zeelandia (so it more or less follows sea depth contours). The northern part I'd cut off, as it just blocks all the rains from Australia. The distance between Brandenburgia and Australia rather be more than 200 miles some maps suggest...

[swamphen]

The one Korpen posted (following the land area on the world map/my map that started this thread) should, IMHO, be workable.

The northern part, outlining the Brandenburg Sound, might be dispoasble, although I have referenced that sound in the past...