Orange Capital Ships - Old Thread

[P3D]

Your deck seems a little crowded w/ all those 3" and 4" deck mounts. And only 2 out of 14 are raised? Add in the 4 10mm mg's and the TTs and I don't know how you'd fit it all.  I'm not saying you can't, I'd just like to see it.  BTW, she seems kinda familiar for some reason, I just can't place it. ;)

Forgot to mention, the two 4" guns are superfiring over the main gun turrets, I just did not want to get a separate weapon entry for them. And 2T3 arrangement is fairly common in N-verse, so deja vu is garanteed.

[Sachmle]

so list them as centerline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts. Then it looks like they're over the MB turrets.  And it's 7 per side, on deck, plus 2 twin TT's per side.

[P3D]

Orange BC study, 27kts 8x13.5" on 25000t. Most probably won't be built.

laid down 1912

Displacement:
   25,000 t light; 26,220 t standard; 28,360 t normal; 30,072 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   715.74 ft / 705.00 ft x 90.00 ft x 30.00 ft (normal load)
   218.16 m / 214.88 m x 27.43 m  x 9.14 m

Armament:
      8 - 13.50" / 343 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1,230.19lbs / 558.00kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 1 raised mount - superfiring
      14 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
      8 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      24 - 0.40" / 10.2 mm guns in twin mounts, 0.03lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1912 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 11,462 lbs / 5,199 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100
   4 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   460.00 ft / 140.21 m   13.00 ft / 3.96 m
   Ends:   4.00" / 102 mm   245.00 ft / 74.68 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Upper:   4.00" / 102 mm   300.00 ft / 91.44 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.50" / 38 mm   460.00 ft / 140.21 m   30.00 ft / 9.14 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13.0" / 330 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      12.0" / 305 mm
   2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2.50" / 64 mm, Conning tower: 13.00" / 330 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 79,804 shp / 59,533 Kw = 27.00 kts
   Range 8,000nm at 13.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,852 tons

Complement:
   1,092 - 1,420

Cost:
   £2.524 million / $10.096 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,433 tons, 5.1 %
   Armour: 9,427 tons, 33.2 %
      - Belts: 4,091 tons, 14.4 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 766 tons, 2.7 %
      - Armament: 2,315 tons, 8.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,994 tons, 7.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 260 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 3,182 tons, 11.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 10,638 tons, 37.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,360 tons, 11.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 320 tons, 1.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     34,597 lbs / 15,693 Kg = 28.1 x 13.5 " / 343 mm shells or 5.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
   Metacentric height 5.2 ft / 1.6 m
   Roll period: 16.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 61 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.60
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.22

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.521
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.83 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26.55 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      29.50 ft / 8.99 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Mid (50 %):      18.50 ft / 5.64 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   17.00 ft / 5.18 m
      - Stern:      16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Average freeboard:   19.49 ft / 5.94 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 100.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 140.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 43,117 Square feet or 4,006 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 103 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 171 lbs/sq ft or 833 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.98
      - Longitudinal: 1.20
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[P3D]

Instead of the BC, Orange will lay down a single 23kts battleship in 1911 to build up the battleline.
B turret is superfiring.
Uncovered parts of the Barbettes are 13", the rest is 10".

8 of the 20 delivered French guns will arm this ship.

Orange BB laid down 1912

Displacement:
   22,800 t light; 24,133 t standard; 26,515 t normal; 28,420 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   582.00 ft / 582.00 ft x 97.00 ft x 29.00 ft (normal load)
   177.39 m / 177.39 m x 29.57 m  x 8.84 m

Armament:
      8 - 13.50" / 343 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1,250.00lbs / 566.99kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 1 raised mount aft - superfiring
      14 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
     8 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
      16 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 8 raised mounts
      16 - 0.40" / 10.2 mm guns (8x2 guns), 0.03lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1912 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 11,728 lbs / 5,320 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 120
   6 - 20.0" / 508 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13.0" / 330 mm   362.00 ft / 110.34 m   13.00 ft / 3.96 m
   Ends:   6.00" / 152 mm   220.00 ft / 67.06 m   13.00 ft / 3.96 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   362.00 ft / 110.34 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
     Main Belt covers 96 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.50" / 38 mm   362.00 ft / 110.34 m   28.00 ft / 8.53 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   8.00" / 203 mm      12.0" / 305 mm
   3rd:   6.00" / 152 mm         -         1.00" / 25 mm

   - Armour deck: 2.50" / 64 mm, Conning tower: 14.00" / 356 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 45,829 shp / 34,189 Kw = 23.00 kts
   Range 8,000nm at 14.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 4,287 tons

Complement:
   1,038 - 1,350

Cost:
   £2.269 million / $9.075 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,446 tons, 5.5 %
   Armour: 9,894 tons, 37.3 %
      - Belts: 4,706 tons, 17.7 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 563 tons, 2.1 %
      - Armament: 2,507 tons, 9.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,851 tons, 7.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 268 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 1,827 tons, 6.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 9,332 tons, 35.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,716 tons, 14.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 1.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     35,361 lbs / 16,040 Kg = 28.7 x 13.5 " / 343 mm shells or 6.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.09
   Metacentric height 5.6 ft / 1.7 m
   Roll period: 17.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.50
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.26

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.567
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 24.12 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      27.00 ft / 8.23 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   22.50 ft / 6.86 m
      - Mid (50 %):      22.50 ft / 6.86 m (13.50 ft / 4.11 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   13.50 ft / 4.11 m
      - Stern:      13.50 ft / 4.11 m
      - Average freeboard:   18.36 ft / 5.60 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 129.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 40,026 Square feet or 3,719 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 171 lbs/sq ft or 836 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.50
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[P3D]

The rest of the French guns most probably will go into this battleship. Orange also needs a big battleship with all the buildings going on.

The upper and end belts are thinned down, and it does not cover the barbettes.
There's a 2" torpedo bulkhead that reaches the armor deck to give protection equivalent to 14".

Orange BB laid down 1912

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1909 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   30,400 t light; 32,254 t standard; 35,822 t normal; 38,677 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   670.00 ft / 670.00 ft x 106.00 ft x 30.00 ft (normal load)
   204.22 m / 204.22 m x 32.31 m  x 9.14 m

Armament:
      12 - 13.50" / 343 mm guns (4x3 guns), 1,250.00lbs / 566.99kg shells, 1909 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      14 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1909 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
      16 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1909 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 8 raised mounts
      16 - 0.40" / 10.2 mm guns (8x2 guns), 0.03lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1909 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 16,728 lbs / 7,588 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 120
   6 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13.0" / 330 mm   420.00 ft / 128.02 m   15.50 ft / 4.72 m
   Ends:   4.00" / 102 mm   244.00 ft / 74.37 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
     6.00 ft / 1.83 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   4.00" / 102 mm   300.00 ft / 91.44 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
     Main Belt covers 96 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      2.00" / 51 mm   420.00 ft / 128.02 m   40.00 ft / 12.19 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   15.0" / 381 mm   8.00" / 203 mm      14.0" / 356 mm
   3rd:   4.00" / 102 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      2.00" / 51 mm

   - Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 14.00" / 356 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 53,154 shp / 39,653 Kw = 23.00 kts
   Range 10,000nm at 14.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 6,423 tons

Complement:
   1,301 - 1,692

Cost:
   £3.092 million / $12.369 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2,061 tons, 5.8 %
   Armour: 12,636 tons, 35.3 %
      - Belts: 4,863 tons, 13.6 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1,243 tons, 3.5 %
      - Armament: 3,350 tons, 9.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 2,852 tons, 8.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 328 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 2,119 tons, 5.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 13,233 tons, 36.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5,422 tons, 15.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 350 tons, 1.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     47,695 lbs / 21,634 Kg = 38.8 x 13.5 " / 343 mm shells or 8.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.09
   Metacentric height 6.4 ft / 2.0 m
   Roll period: 17.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.55
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.25

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.588
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.32 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 25.88 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      29.00 ft / 8.84 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Mid (50 %):      17.50 ft / 5.33 m
      - Quarterdeck (20 %):   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Stern:      15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Average freeboard:   18.20 ft / 5.55 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 82.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 131.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 51,385 Square feet or 4,774 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 195 lbs/sq ft or 954 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.22
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[The Rock Doctor]

So one ship of similar status to your previous battleships, and one as a prestige ship / flagship?

[P3D]

Meanwhile I realized that I also had a 3T3 BB design in mind. Most probably this would get built. Barbette thickness is 13" above weather deck, 10" below (for 13" effective armor).

Orange BB laid down 1912

Displacement:
   22,400 t light; 23,784 t standard; 25,449 t normal; 26,781 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   555.00 ft / 555.00 ft x 93.00 ft x 29.00 ft (normal load)
   169.16 m / 169.16 m x 28.35 m  x 8.84 m

Armament:
      9 - 13.50" / 343 mm guns (3x3 guns), 1,230.19lbs / 558.00kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority aft
      14 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
      16 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 8 raised mounts
      16 - 0.40" / 10.2 mm guns (8x2 guns), 0.03lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1912 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 12,800 lbs / 5,806 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 120
   6 - 20.0" / 508 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13.0" / 330 mm   352.00 ft / 107.29 m   15.50 ft / 4.72 m
   Ends:   6.00" / 152 mm   203.00 ft / 61.87 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   352.00 ft / 107.29 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
     Main Belt covers 98 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.50" / 38 mm   352.00 ft / 107.29 m   29.00 ft / 8.84 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   8.00" / 203 mm      11.5" / 292 mm
   3rd:   6.00" / 152 mm         -         1.00" / 25 mm

   - Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 14.00" / 356 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 45,869 shp / 34,218 Kw = 23.00 kts
   Range 8,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,996 tons

Complement:
   1,006 - 1,309

Cost:
   £2.384 million / $9.536 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,600 tons, 6.3 %
   Armour: 9,742 tons, 38.3 %
      - Belts: 4,624 tons, 18.2 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 567 tons, 2.2 %
      - Armament: 2,204 tons, 8.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 2,086 tons, 8.2 %
      - Conning Tower: 261 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 1,829 tons, 7.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 8,925 tons, 35.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,049 tons, 12.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 305 tons, 1.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     29,882 lbs / 13,554 Kg = 24.3 x 13.5 " / 343 mm shells or 4.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.07
   Metacentric height 5.2 ft / 1.6 m
   Roll period: 17.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.60
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.21

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
   Block coefficient: 0.595
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.97 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.56 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      26.00 ft / 7.92 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   22.00 ft / 6.71 m (17.50 ft / 5.33 m aft of break)
      - Mid (58 %):      17.50 ft / 5.33 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   17.50 ft / 5.33 m
      - Stern:      17.50 ft / 5.33 m
      - Average freeboard:   18.72 ft / 5.71 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 97.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 124.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 37,577 Square feet or 3,491 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 96 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 172 lbs/sq ft or 838 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.68
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[P3D]

Drawing of the 3T3x13.5" battleship.

[Carthaginian]

29 and 30' drafts... pretty deep.
No wonder they are so strong. :)

Nice ships, but how do you figure that variable barbette thickness?
If I did that on my ships, I could save tons of weight to put armor in other places?

[P3D]

I assumed barbette height is calculated from the top of main belt (most probably from waterline, but nevermind). There's a 8' deck, another 6-7' above deck, so I just took the average. BTW, it was a common practice back then.

The main reason for the 29' draught is that I did not want to go over BC=0.600. Beam was also fixed (fits in lvl 2 dock, L:B should not be much lower than 6:1) so I could get displacement only by increasing draught.

[Carthaginian]

South Carolina was about 5.6:1.
Florida was about 5.9:1.
Wyoming was fully 5.3:1, don't know if that is before or after bulging, though.
In fact, virtually all the WWI era US battleships were in the 5.5-6.0 range, with some significantly lower. British, Japanese and German battleships tended to be longer and leaner, but the US ships serve as a reminder that 'normal' seldom is.

[P3D]

The lower values are for post-bulging, US ships were usually around 6:1. There were hardly any dreadnoughts with L:B below 5.9:1 when built - the exceptions are the SoCal, Espana, Nassau, Helgoland and Tegethoff classes.
I also try to keep them lean because they are 'fast' (23kts) battleships for the age.

[Carthaginian]

The fast BB thing works for me.
Speed not being a primary concern for me... well, i have no problem building bathtubs.

[Borys]

Ahoj!
Oranje can have ships with deep draught. They have deep harbours.
Draught could be a problem for e.g. Baltic fleet, maybe CSA. Nederlanden have to dredge a lot. At Yamato stage Dutch ships will be flotated out unfitted, with turrrets installed in Scotland. And permenent station there.
OK - but that's for flavour. No game effect.
Borys

[Carthaginian]

I know...
Actually, the whole issue was just curiosity.
I had noticed that most ships weren't running that deep and wondered why he wanted his to have drafts that deep. The same for the BC's, as some people are speed freaks and some firepower... and as one of the latter, I don't understand the constraints of designing for the former.

The barbette estimations was what I was really wondering about, but only functionally, so I can attempt similar calculations on my own ships to help save weight.