Orange Capital Ships - Old Thread

[P3D]

I have to spend my budget on a few ships, so I will have to lay down at least one ship of this class. I managed to squeeze it into a cheaper hull for the price of shorter range.

Orange Battleship, laid down in 1905

Displacement:
   13,741 t light; 14,430 t standard; 15,640 t normal; 16,608 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   490.00 ft / 490.00 ft x 70.00 ft x 26.00 ft (normal load)
   149.35 m / 149.35 m x 21.34 m  x 7.92 m

Armament:
      6 - 12.00" / 305mm/45 guns (3x2 guns), 864.00lbs / 391.90kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      12 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
      4 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1905 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      8 - 0.40" / 10.2 mm guns in single mounts, 0.03lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1905 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 6,534 lbs / 2,964 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour (advanced, 1.05/1.15):
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.6" / 320 mm   331.00 ft / 100.89 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Ends:   6.30" / 160 mm   140.00 ft / 42.67 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
     19.00 ft / 5.79 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   6.30" / 160 mm   331.00 ft / 100.89 m   7.50 ft / 2.29 m
     Main Belt covers 104 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.50" / 38 mm   331.00 ft / 100.89 m   21.00 ft / 6.40 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13.7" / 347 mm   7.35" / 187 mm      11.6" / 293 mm
   2nd:   6.30" / 160 mm         -         4.00" / 102 mm
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 3.45" / 88 mm, Conning tower: 13.65" / 347 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 19,997 shp / 14,918 Kw = 19.92 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,178 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   699 - 909

Cost:
   £1.398 million / $5.592 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 817 tons, 5.2 %
   Armour: 6,409 tons, 41.0 %
      - Belts: 2,793 tons, 17.9 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 386 tons, 2.5 %
      - Armament: 1,424 tons, 9.1 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,622 tons, 10.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 184 tons, 1.2 %
   Machinery: 1,650 tons, 10.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,845 tons, 31.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,899 tons, 12.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 20 tons, 0.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     17,974 lbs / 8,153 Kg = 20.8 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 3.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.07
   Metacentric height 3.3 ft / 1.0 m
   Roll period: 16.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.65
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.30

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.614
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.14 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      23.59 ft / 7.19 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Mid (50 %):      14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Stern:      14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Average freeboard:   14.77 ft / 4.50 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 96.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 25,412 Square feet or 2,361 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 96 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 131 lbs/sq ft or 642 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.37
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[The Rock Doctor]

For a cheap hull it seems just as capable as my much larger battleship...

[P3D]

I am only $1 or so cheaper.
You ship is just oversized for carrying 6x12" guns. Historical Tegethoff carried 12x12" on a shorter hull.

[P3D]

After looking at some radical ideas (like the inclined belt in the 'New Ironsides' study) Orange designer came out with this design which caused the Minister of Finance faint. The size of the ship is the consequence of the speed requiremet - 23kts, not much slower than the two Brandenburger Schlachtkreuzers. 1kts cost around 1000t for the ship.

Orange BB study, laid down 1907 (Engine 1909)

Displacement:
   28,000 t light; 29,446 t standard; 31,385 t normal; 32,936 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   659.00 ft / 659.00 ft x 100.00 ft x 31.00 ft (normal load)
   200.86 m / 200.86 m x 30.48 m  x 9.45 m

Armament:
      6 - 13.50" / 343 mm guns (3x2 guns), 1,230.19lbs / 558.00kg shells, 1907 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority aft
      4 - 13.50" / 343 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1,230.19lbs / 558.00kg shells, 1907 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on side, all amidships
      16 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 102.98lbs / 46.71kg shells, 1907 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      8 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns in single mounts, 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1907 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 14,053 lbs / 6,374 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100
   4 - 19.7" / 500 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   14.7" / 373 mm   380.00 ft / 115.82 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Ends:   4.20" / 107 mm   279.00 ft / 85.04 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Upper:   7.35" / 187 mm   380.00 ft / 115.82 m   7.00 ft / 2.13 m
     Main Belt covers 89 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.50" / 38 mm   380.00 ft / 115.82 m   31.00 ft / 9.45 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   15.8" / 400 mm   8.40" / 213 mm      14.7" / 373 mm
   2nd:   15.8" / 400 mm   8.40" / 213 mm      14.7" / 373 mm
   3rd:   7.35" / 187 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 4.00" / 102 mm, Conning tower: 14.70" / 373 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 48,004 shp / 35,811 Kw = 23.00 kts
   Range 7,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,490 tons

Complement:
   1,178 - 1,532

Cost:
   £2.761 million / $11.044 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,757 tons, 5.6 %
   Armour: 12,637 tons, 40.3 %
      - Belts: 4,971 tons, 15.8 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 654 tons, 2.1 %
      - Armament: 3,333 tons, 10.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 3,364 tons, 10.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 315 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 2,182 tons, 7.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 11,324 tons, 36.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,385 tons, 10.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 0.3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     40,783 lbs / 18,499 Kg = 33.2 x 13.5 " / 343 mm shells or 7.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 6.0 ft / 1.8 m
   Roll period: 17.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.45
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.25

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.538
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.59 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 25.67 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      27.00 ft / 8.23 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Mid (40 %):      21.00 ft / 6.40 m (14.00 ft / 4.27 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Stern:      14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Average freeboard:   17.28 ft / 5.27 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 83.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 118.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 45,465 Square feet or 4,224 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 183 lbs/sq ft or 895 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.27
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[Borys]

Ahoj!
Needlessly thick AD - 2 inches is enough.
TB too short - all under water?
You burn oil?

Borys

[Ithekro]

Projected enemy or rival of Orange?   Brandenburg I would assume, right?  Austrians maybe, if they come back or mess with New Switzerland directly?  Those that do not yet exist in the Indian Ocean...and the Western Australian Muslims?  Anyone else?

[P3D]

Second thought. If I have only six guns, I can dispense with the wing turrets, and increase speed with a knot. Extreme seakeeping is an extra.

RONS Second Thought, battlecruiser, laid down 1907 (Engine 1909)

Displacement:
   21,901 t light; 23,013 t standard; 24,638 t normal; 25,938 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   638.00 ft / 638.00 ft x 91.00 ft x 30.00 ft (normal load)
   194.46 m / 194.46 m x 27.74 m  x 9.14 m

Armament:
      6 - 13.50" / 343 mm guns (3x2 guns), 1,230.19lbs / 558.00kg shells, 1907 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      14 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1907 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      8 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns in single mounts, 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1907 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 8,996 lbs / 4,081 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 120

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13.7" / 347 mm   350.00 ft / 106.68 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Ends:   6.30" / 160 mm   288.00 ft / 87.78 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Upper:   6.30" / 160 mm   350.00 ft / 106.68 m   7.00 ft / 2.13 m
     Main Belt covers 84 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.50" / 38 mm   350.00 ft / 106.68 m   33.00 ft / 10.06 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14.7" / 373 mm   7.35" / 187 mm      13.7" / 347 mm
   3rd:   6.30" / 160 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      1.00" / 25 mm

   - Armour deck: 2.30" / 58 mm, Conning tower: 13.65" / 347 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 48,062 shp / 35,854 Kw = 24.00 kts
   Range 10,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,925 tons

Complement:
   983 - 1,278

Cost:
   £2.017 million / $8.068 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,125 tons, 4.6 %
   Armour: 9,314 tons, 37.8 %
      - Belts: 4,615 tons, 18.7 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 641 tons, 2.6 %
      - Armament: 2,170 tons, 8.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,639 tons, 6.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 249 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 2,185 tons, 8.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 9,158 tons, 37.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,737 tons, 11.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 120 tons, 0.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     39,210 lbs / 17,785 Kg = 31.9 x 13.5 " / 343 mm shells or 6.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
   Metacentric height 5.7 ft / 1.7 m
   Roll period: 16.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.50
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.50

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.495
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.01 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 25.26 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      28.00 ft / 8.53 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Mid (64 %):      23.00 ft / 7.01 m (16.00 ft / 4.88 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Stern:      16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Average freeboard:   20.88 ft / 6.36 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 82.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 154.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 38,511 Square feet or 3,578 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 108 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 162 lbs/sq ft or 792 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.52
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

[swamphen]

*begins work on turretising 350mm guns*

[P3D]

Slight variation,
with increased turret side armor, decreased upper/end belts, and slightly cheaper.

Displacement:
   21,437 t light; 22,538 t standard; 24,142 t normal; 25,424 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   632.00 ft / 632.00 ft x 89.00 ft x 29.00 ft (normal load)
   192.63 m / 192.63 m x 27.13 m  x 8.84 m

Armament:
      6 - 13.50" / 343 mm guns (3x2 guns), 1,230.19lbs / 558.00kg shells, 1907 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      14 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1907 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      8 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns in single mounts, 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1907 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 8,996 lbs / 4,081 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 120

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13.7" / 347 mm   350.00 ft / 106.68 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Ends:   5.25" / 133 mm   282.00 ft / 85.95 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Upper:   5.25" / 133 mm   350.00 ft / 106.68 m   7.00 ft / 2.13 m
     Main Belt covers 85 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.50" / 38 mm   350.00 ft / 106.68 m   32.00 ft / 9.75 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14.7" / 373 mm   10.5" / 267 mm      13.7" / 347 mm
   3rd:   5.25" / 133 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      1.00" / 25 mm

   - Armour deck: 2.30" / 58 mm, Conning tower: 13.65" / 347 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 47,935 shp / 35,759 Kw = 24.00 kts
   Range 10,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,886 tons

Complement:
   967 - 1,258

Cost:
   £2.000 million / $8.000 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,125 tons, 4.7 %
   Armour: 9,058 tons, 37.5 %
      - Belts: 4,320 tons, 17.9 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 622 tons, 2.6 %
      - Armament: 2,250 tons, 9.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,621 tons, 6.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 246 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 2,179 tons, 9.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 8,945 tons, 37.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,705 tons, 11.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 130 tons, 0.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     37,461 lbs / 16,992 Kg = 30.5 x 13.5 " / 343 mm shells or 6.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
   Metacentric height 5.4 ft / 1.7 m
   Roll period: 16.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.54
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.50

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.518
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.10 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 25.14 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      28.00 ft / 8.53 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Mid (61 %):      23.00 ft / 7.01 m (16.00 ft / 4.88 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Stern:      16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Average freeboard:   20.67 ft / 6.30 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 85.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 153.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 38,101 Square feet or 3,540 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 161 lbs/sq ft or 786 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.48
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

[Earl822]

Hmmm, bigger and Faster than Dreadnought, but with fewer guns, again a design I like, though it will take a lot of your capacity to build.

[P3D]

Three Orange battleships are getting old, and would need a refit in a year or two. Now I have four options:
a/ retire them to reserve to act as coastal battleships. They are a bit large for that role, though.
b/ refit them - but 3BP and 3$ is a bit too much for the obsolete ships.
So what is left is scrapping, and I'd have six BB twin turret with OK armor (12" equivalent) and 12"/45 guns. So I could
c/ install the gun turrets as coastal artillery around my major harbors
d/ reuse them in ships.

Now these turrets are a bit weak for ships of the battleline, but perfect for battlecruisers. So, instead of putting 13.5" turrets on the battlecruiser, I could keep them for later use. The battlecruisers being built would be a shameless copy of the Brandyburger SKs, with a few exception:
- slightly better armor
- oil firing boilers - greater range
- torpedo bulkeads.
If I refurbish the old turrets (400t and $1.81 each), I still can spare 0.9BP and $4.1
on each ship, which is not negligible. Also, the turrets being ready would allow me to finish the ships a few months earlier. Two of these ships thus won't cost much more than one of the 6x13.5" ones, and it also cost 10BP less - I could build 2-3 frigates or several korvettes from the leftovers.

Budget BC, Orange laid down 1907 (Engine 1909)

Displacement:
   17,008 t light; 17,895 t standard; 19,915 t normal; 21,531 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   557.00 ft / 557.00 ft x 80.00 ft x 27.00 ft (normal load)
   169.77 m / 169.77 m x 24.38 m  x 8.23 m

Armament:
      6 - 12.00" / 305 mm guns (3x2 guns), 864.00lbs / 391.90kg shells, 1907 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      16 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1907 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     8 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
      8 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns in single mounts, 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1907 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 7,015 lbs / 3,182 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 120

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.6" / 320 mm   340.00 ft / 103.63 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   6.30" / 160 mm   217.00 ft / 66.14 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Upper:   6.30" / 160 mm   340.00 ft / 103.63 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 94 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.50" / 38 mm   340.00 ft / 103.63 m   31.00 ft / 9.45 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13.2" / 335 mm   7.70" / 196 mm      12.6" / 320 mm
   3rd:   5.25" / 133 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      1.00" / 25 mm

   - Armour deck: 2.30" / 58 mm, Conning tower: 12.60" / 320 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 45,384 shp / 33,856 Kw = 24.00 kts
   Range 7,000nm at 14.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,636 tons

Complement:
   837 - 1,089

Cost:
   £1.621 million / $6.483 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 877 tons, 4.4 %
   Armour: 7,446 tons, 37.4 %
      - Belts: 3,615 tons, 18.2 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 585 tons, 2.9 %
      - Armament: 1,686 tons, 8.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,360 tons, 6.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 199 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 2,063 tons, 10.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,512 tons, 32.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,907 tons, 14.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 110 tons, 0.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     27,857 lbs / 12,636 Kg = 32.2 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 4.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
   Metacentric height 4.4 ft / 1.3 m
   Roll period: 16.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.52
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.579
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.96 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.60 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      26.00 ft / 7.92 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Mid (60 %):      21.00 ft / 6.40 m (13.00 ft / 3.96 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   13.00 ft / 3.96 m
      - Stern:      13.00 ft / 3.96 m
      - Average freeboard:   18.20 ft / 5.55 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 91.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 130.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 31,966 Square feet or 2,970 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 141 lbs/sq ft or 687 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.41
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[Ithekro]

The slightly cheaper 12" gunned Battlecruiser is probably the best option, unless you still have a desire for numbers (of older ships) over quality of vessels in service.  Plus you mentioned extra smaller ships if you use this design over the 13.5" version.

[P3D]

As I still have another 5 ships, with a total of 24 guns, the coastal defense apparently must rely on the 8" guns salvaged from the ships.

[Earl822]

hmmm, I've got a feeling building Ac's not BC's isn't a good idea.

[P3D]

Building ACs is a good idea, if AC means a fast cruiser with 8-9" guns to kill PCs and run away from BCs.