Bavarian Panzerkreuzer 1909

[Bazhell]

Triest, Bavaria Panzerkreuzer laid down 1909

Displacement:
   10.000 t light; 10.867 t standard; 12.013 t normal; 12.930 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   474,41 ft / 474,41 ft x 69,88 ft x 24,61 ft (normal load)
   144,60 m / 144,60 m x 21,30 m  x 7,50 m

Armament:
      4 - 8,27" / 210 mm guns (2x2 guns), 282,57lbs / 128,17kg shells, 1909 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 8,27" / 210 mm guns (4x2 guns), 282,57lbs / 128,17kg shells, 1909 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on side ends, evenly spread
      12 - 5,91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 102,98lbs / 46,71kg shells, 1909 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      20 - 3,46" / 88,0 mm guns in single mounts, 20,79lbs / 9,43kg shells, 1909 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 5.042 lbs / 2.287 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 200
   4 - 20,0" / 508 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   6,00" / 152 mm   303,48 ft / 92,50 m   11,00 ft / 3,35 m
   Ends:   3,00" / 76 mm   170,93 ft / 52,10 m   11,00 ft / 3,35 m
     Main Belt covers 98% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   8,00" / 203 mm   4,00" / 102 mm      4,00" / 102 mm
   2nd:   8,00" / 203 mm   4,00" / 102 mm      4,00" / 102 mm
   3rd:   6,00" / 152 mm   4,00" / 102 mm      4,00" / 102 mm
   4th:   1,00" / 25 mm   1,00" / 25 mm      1,00" / 25 mm

   - Armour deck: 2,00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 6,00" / 152 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 36.168 shp / 26.982 Kw = 24,30 kts
   Range 5.000nm at 12,50 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2.063 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   573 - 745

Cost:
   £1,133 million / $4,530 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 630 tons, 5,2%
   Armour: 2.967 tons, 24,7%
      - Belts: 1.077 tons, 9,0%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armament: 993 tons, 8,3%
      - Armour Deck: 829 tons, 6,9%
      - Conning Tower: 68 tons, 0,6%
   Machinery: 1.808 tons, 15,1%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4.544 tons, 37,8%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2.013 tons, 16,8%
   Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 0,4%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     11.498 lbs / 5.215 Kg = 40,7 x 8,3 " / 210 mm shells or 1,7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,04
   Metacentric height 3,2 ft / 1,0 m
   Roll period: 16,5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 79 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,65
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,13

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
   Block coefficient: 0,515
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,79 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21,78 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      26,25 ft / 8,00 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   19,69 ft / 6,00 m (15,26 ft / 4,65 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50%):      15,26 ft / 4,65 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   15,26 ft / 4,65 m
      - Stern:      15,26 ft / 4,65 m
      - Average freeboard:   16,67 ft / 5,08 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 96,6%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 113,6%
   Waterplane Area: 22.403 Square feet or 2.081 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 103%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 135 lbs/sq ft or 661 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1,02
      - Longitudinal: 1,95
      - Overall: 1,08
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

[Borys]

Ahoj!
Needs work. The raised forecastle means one of two things:
- the front turret cannot fire to the front
or
- the front turret is raised.

This is well hidden in the SS2 manual, that all guns above freeboard ar raised.

You have a quite nice Bluchersque vessel, which shows how much can be gained by using turbines.


The stability is too low for my taste, I try not to go below 1,10 if I can help it, and 1,05 is absolute bottom for me.

I'd thicken the barbettes to 6 inch.

4 inch armour for casematte hoists is too much - 1 or 2 inch splinter armour is enough.

The 88s should be deck mounts, no hoists. You will shave a few tonnes here.

Just my two Grosche ...
Borys

[swamphen]

Not a bad ship; accounting for coal firing instead of oil, it doesn't compare to shabbily to the DKB's GK09...

[The Rock Doctor]

You should have a full deck's height - around 2.4 metres - as your midships break.  Otherwise, it implies a complicated internal layout for the ship.

It's a powerful ship, but I think there are too many guns on the beams; given how many 21 and 15 cm guns you have, I wouldn't really bother with more than about four 88s on each beam.  Things will fit better, too, if you mount the 150s in hull casemates.

You should parcel out some miscellaneous weight for torpedoes, flag facilities, and future growth with this.