Springsharp files from French ships

[maddox]

Most of these vessels are done by Ithekro. But I'll expand this tread according to need.

For starters, Gloire and her sisters.

Gloire, France large protected cruiser laid down 1895

Displacement:
   11.974 t light; 12.522 t standard; 14.208 t normal; 15.558 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   520,00 ft / 520,00 ft x 70,00 ft x 27,00 ft (normal load)
   158,50 m / 158,50 m x 21,34 m  x 8,23 m

Armament:
      2 - 10,83" / 275 mm guns in single mounts, 634,55lbs / 287,83kg shells, 1895 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      16 - 5,51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 83,72lbs / 37,97kg shells, 1895 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     8 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in any sea
      16 - 2,76" / 70,0 mm guns in single mounts, 10,47lbs / 4,75kg shells, 1895 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     4 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in any sea
      16 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm guns in single mounts, 3,17lbs / 1,44kg shells, 1895 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 4 raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 2.827 lbs / 1.282 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   4 - 18,0" / 457,2 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   6,00" / 152 mm   6,00" / 152 mm      6,00" / 152 mm

   - Armour deck: 6,00" / 152 mm, Conning tower: 12,00" / 305 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 26.830 ihp / 20.015 Kw = 22,17 kts
   Range 9.000nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3.036 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   649 - 845

Cost:
   £1,353 million / $5,410 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 353 tons, 2,5%
   Armour: 3.068 tons, 21,6%
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armament: 210 tons, 1,5%
      - Armour Deck: 2.707 tons, 19,1%
      - Conning Tower: 152 tons, 1,1%
   Machinery: 4.547 tons, 32,0%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3.855 tons, 27,1%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2.234 tons, 15,7%
   Miscellaneous weights: 150 tons, 1,1%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     8.038 lbs / 3.646 Kg = 12,7 x 10,8 " / 275 mm shells or 1,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,52
   Metacentric height 6,0 ft / 1,8 m
   Roll period: 12,0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,13
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,20

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,506
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,43 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22,80 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      14,00 ft / 4,27 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   14,00 ft / 4,27 m
      - Mid (50%):      10,00 ft / 3,05 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
      - Stern:      10,00 ft / 3,05 m
      - Average freeboard:   11,40 ft / 3,47 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 129,4%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 78,2%
   Waterplane Area: 24.386 Square feet or 2.265 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 94%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 110 lbs/sq ft or 537 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,99
      - Longitudinal: 1,12
      - Overall: 1,01
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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4 of the eldest, only barely refitted, not adapted, nor really modernized vessels, the troublesome year 1905 precluded any rebuild as given to the Magenta and Marceau.

On the list  for reserve/sale/scrap , Formidable and Brennus are the first 2 to be removed from the list  in HY1 1908

Formidable             
Amiral Baudin               
Brennus                   
Jaureguiberry           

France Battleship laid down 1889

Displacement:
11,656 t light; 12,207 t standard; 14,093 t normal; 15,545 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
380.00 ft / 380.00 ft x 75.00 ft x 27.00 ft (normal load)
115.82 m / 115.82 m x 22.86 m x 8.23 m

Armament:
4 - 10.83" / 275 mm guns (2x2 guns), 625.04lbs / 283.51kg shells, 1889 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 10.83" / 275 mm guns in single mounts, 625.04lbs / 283.51kg shells, 1889 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side, all amidships
8 - 5.51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 82.47lbs / 37.41kg shells, 1889 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
8 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
10 - 2.76" / 70.0 mm guns in single mounts, 10.31lbs / 4.68kg shells, 1889 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
12 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.12lbs / 1.42kg shells, 1889 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 4,551 lbs / 2,064 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 100
2 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 17.8" / 451 mm 380.00 ft / 115.82 m 7.50 ft / 2.29 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Upper: 2.00" / 51 mm 380.00 ft / 115.82 m 4.00 ft / 1.22 m
Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 16.0" / 406 mm 11.0" / 279 mm 8.75" / 222 mm
2nd: 16.0" / 406 mm 9.00" / 229 mm 8.00" / 203 mm
3rd: 2.00" / 51 mm - -

- Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 13.80" / 351 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 8,039 ihp / 5,997 Kw = 15.46 kts
Range 6,000nm at 12.00 kts (Bunkerage = 3,395 tons)

Complement:
646 - 840

Cost:
£1.096 million / $4.384 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 569 tons, 4.0 %
Armour: 4,532 tons, 32.2 %
- Belts: 1,984 tons, 14.1 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 1,191 tons, 8.4 %
- Armour Deck: 1,183 tons, 8.4 %
- Conning Tower: 174 tons, 1.2 %
Machinery: 1,502 tons, 10.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,053 tons, 35.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,437 tons, 17.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
18,681 lbs / 8,474 Kg = 29.9 x 10.8 " / 275 mm shells or 2.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
Metacentric height 4.0 ft / 1.2 m
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 99 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.60
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.99

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.641
Length to Beam Ratio: 5.07 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19.49 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Mid (50 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Stern: 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Average freeboard: 16.94 ft / 5.16 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 67.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 103.5 %
Waterplane Area: 21,320 Square feet or 1,981 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 117 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 162 lbs/sq ft or 791 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.00
- Longitudinal: 3.13
- Overall: 1.12
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

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The escort groups build for France by the UNK

Each group consists of a Quebec class protected cruiser and 5 Fleurus II class sloops.  If you spot a Quebec class light cruiser, you can bet that at least 3 Fleurus II are sneaking up on you.

Quebec Class, France Leader laid down 1902 (Engine 1908)

Displacement:
   2.366 t light; 2.492 t standard; 3.070 t normal; 3.533 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   334,00 ft / 330,00 ft x 37,00 ft x 16,00 ft (normal load)
   101,80 m / 100,58 m x 11,28 m  x 4,88 m

Armament:
      2 - 6,50" / 165 mm guns in single mounts, 137,06lbs / 62,17kg shells, 1902 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 6,50" / 165 mm guns in single mounts, 137,06lbs / 62,17kg shells, 1902 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side ends, evenly spread
      10 - 2,76" / 70,0 mm guns in single mounts, 10,47lbs / 4,75kg shells, 1902 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm guns in single mounts, 0,06lbs / 0,03kg shells, 1902 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 928 lbs / 421 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 110
   2 - 20,0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes, 2 - 20,0" / 508 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   1,18" / 30 mm   328,08 ft / 100,00 m   9,84 ft / 3,00 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   1,18" / 30 mm   328,08 ft / 100,00 m   6,56 ft / 2,00 m
     Main Belt covers 153% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2,00" / 51 mm   2,00" / 51 mm            -
   2nd:   2,00" / 51 mm   2,00" / 51 mm            -
   3rd:   1,00" / 25 mm         -               -
   4th:   1,00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 1,97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 11.821 shp / 8.818 Kw = 22,00 kts
   Range 6.000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1.041 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   206 - 268

Cost:
   £0,272 million / $1,089 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 116 tons, 3,8%
   Armour: 622 tons, 20,3%
      - Belts: 244 tons, 8,0%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armament: 67 tons, 2,2%
      - Armour Deck: 310 tons, 10,1%
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0,0%
   Machinery: 657 tons, 21,4%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 921 tons, 30,0%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 704 tons, 22,9%
   Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 1,6%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     3.134 lbs / 1.422 Kg = 22,9 x 6,5 " / 165 mm shells or 0,8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,34
   Metacentric height 1,9 ft / 0,6 m
   Roll period: 11,3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 76 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,46
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,52

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,550
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,92 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18,17 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 4,00 ft / 1,22 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      19,00 ft / 5,79 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   16,00 ft / 4,88 m
      - Mid (50%):      12,00 ft / 3,66 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   12,00 ft / 3,66 m
      - Stern:      12,00 ft / 3,66 m
      - Average freeboard:   13,64 ft / 4,16 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 107,1%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 91,4%
   Waterplane Area: 8.521 Square feet or 792 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 60 lbs/sq ft or 295 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,92
      - Longitudinal: 2,26
      - Overall: 1,01
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

The best destroyers/sloops France have, grandfather claused , all 25 of them. Also UNK build.

Fleurus II, France sloop laid down 1903 (Engine 1908)

Displacement:
   1.092 t light; 1.135 t standard; 1.513 t normal; 1.816 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   324,80 ft / 311,68 ft x 32,81 ft x 11,48 ft (normal load)
   99,00 m / 95,00 m x 10,00 m  x 3,50 m

Armament:
      2 - 5,51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 83,72lbs / 37,97kg shells, 1903 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 2,76" / 70,0 mm guns in single mounts, 10,47lbs / 4,75kg shells, 1903 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      6 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm guns in single mounts, 0,48lbs / 0,22kg shells, 1903 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 212 lbs / 96 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100
   6 - 20,0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 12.417 shp / 9.263 Kw = 25,00 kts
   Range 6.000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 681 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   120 - 157

Cost:
   £0,153 million / $0,612 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 27 tons, 1,8%
   Machinery: 660 tons, 43,6%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 385 tons, 25,5%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 421 tons, 27,8%
   Miscellaneous weights: 20 tons, 1,3%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     682 lbs / 309 Kg = 8,1 x 5,5 " / 140 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,71
   Metacentric height 2,3 ft / 0,7 m
   Roll period: 9,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 78 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,15
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,56

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,451
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9,50 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17,65 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   13,12 ft / 4,00 m
      - Mid (50%):      12,04 ft / 3,67 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   12,04 ft / 3,67 m
      - Stern:      12,04 ft / 3,67 m
      - Average freeboard:   12,94 ft / 3,95 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 155,6%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 80,6%
   Waterplane Area: 6.528 Square feet or 606 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 94%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 32 lbs/sq ft or 157 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,60
      - Longitudinal: 1,60
      - Overall: 0,66
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

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Magenta and Marceau, the 2 sisters of the lost Neptune. These elder ships got a complete rebuild in 1902.

Magenta/Marceau, France Battleship laid down 1887 (Engine 1902)

Displacement:
   13.033 t light; 13.651 t standard; 15.166 t normal; 16.377 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   393,12 ft / 380,00 ft x 75,00 ft (Bulges 80,71 ft) x 27,00 ft (normal load)
   119,82 m / 115,82 m x 22,86 m (Bulges 24,60 m)  x 8,23 m

Armament:
      4 - 10,83" / 275 mm guns (2x2 guns), 705,48lbs / 320,00kg shells, 1887 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 - 10,83" / 275 mm guns in single mounts, 705,48lbs / 320,00kg shells, 1887 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on side, all amidships
      10 - 5,51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 92,59lbs / 42,00kg shells, 1902 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     6 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
      14 - 2,76" / 70,0 mm guns in single mounts, 10,47lbs / 4,75kg shells, 1902 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 8 raised mounts
      6 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm guns in single mounts, 0,48lbs / 0,22kg shells, 1902 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 5.308 lbs / 2.408 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12,6" / 320 mm   278,87 ft / 85,00 m   10,40 ft / 3,17 m
   Ends:   5,91" / 150 mm   101,12 ft / 30,82 m   10,40 ft / 3,17 m
   Upper:   5,91" / 150 mm   247,01 ft / 75,29 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 113% of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
      0,79" / 20 mm   278,87 ft / 85,00 m   25,85 ft / 7,88 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12,6" / 320 mm   8,66" / 220 mm      8,66" / 220 mm
   2nd:   12,6" / 320 mm   8,66" / 220 mm      8,66" / 220 mm
   3rd:   1,97" / 50 mm   1,18" / 30 mm            -
   4th:   1,18" / 30 mm   1,18" / 30 mm            -
   5th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 2,76" / 70 mm, Conning tower: 12,60" / 320 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 15.153 ihp / 11.304 Kw = 18,00 kts
   Range 9.000nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2.725 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   683 - 888

Cost:
   £1,263 million / $5,052 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 578 tons, 3,8%
   Armour: 4.966 tons, 32,7%
      - Belts: 2.351 tons, 15,5%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 210 tons, 1,4%
      - Armament: 1.135 tons, 7,5%
      - Armour Deck: 1.104 tons, 7,3%
      - Conning Tower: 166 tons, 1,1%
   Machinery: 2.296 tons, 15,1%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4.943 tons, 32,6%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2.132 tons, 14,1%
   Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 1,6%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     16.422 lbs / 7.449 Kg = 27,1 x 10,8 " / 275 mm shells or 2,9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,19
   Metacentric height 4,5 ft / 1,4 m
   Roll period: 16,0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,39
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,44

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,641
   Length to Beam Ratio: 4,71 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19,49 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      21,65 ft / 6,60 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   18,00 ft / 5,49 m
      - Mid (50%):      16,00 ft / 4,88 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   16,00 ft / 4,88 m
      - Stern:      16,00 ft / 4,88 m
      - Average freeboard:   16,99 ft / 5,18 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 109,6%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 99,4%
   Waterplane Area: 21.653 Square feet or 2.012 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 155 lbs/sq ft or 754 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,90
      - Longitudinal: 2,57
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

After a very expensive rebuild in 1902, the 2 ships of the Neptune class are again front line units, albeit slow.

Increased speed, increased range for indian ocean and pacific use.
New shells, new armor and bulged for  better underwater protection.
A higher bow makes these ships more comfortable,and the 250 tons of misc weight is used on a marconi set, a set of Ears and comfort increasing messures.

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Griffon, French escort cruiser laid down 1906 (Engine 1909)

Displacement:
   7.716 t light; 8.089 t standard; 9.157 t normal; 10.012 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   437,99 ft / 433,07 ft x 72,18 ft x 19,36 ft (normal load)
   133,50 m / 132,00 m x 22,00 m  x 5,90 m

Armament:
      8 - 7,68" / 195 mm guns (4x2 guns), 226,24lbs / 102,62kg shells, 1901 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      12 - 5,51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 92,59lbs / 42,00kg shells, 1906 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
      20 - 2,76" / 70,0 mm guns in single mounts, 10,47lbs / 4,75kg shells, 1906 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 10 raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 3.130 lbs / 1.420 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5,91" / 150 mm   229,66 ft / 70,00 m   10,20 ft / 3,11 m
   Ends:   3,94" / 100 mm   203,38 ft / 61,99 m   10,20 ft / 3,11 m
   Upper:   5,91" / 150 mm   196,85 ft / 60,00 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 82% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5,91" / 150 mm   4,72" / 120 mm      5,91" / 150 mm
   2nd:   6,69" / 170 mm   2,36" / 60 mm      2,36" / 60 mm
   3rd:   0,79" / 20 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 1,97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 5,91" / 150 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 21.987 shp / 16.402 Kw = 22,00 kts
   Range 6.000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1.923 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   467 - 608

Cost:
   £0,741 million / $2,966 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 378 tons, 4,1%
   Armour: 3.003 tons, 32,8%
      - Belts: 1.391 tons, 15,2%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armament: 769 tons, 8,4%
      - Armour Deck: 787 tons, 8,6%
      - Conning Tower: 56 tons, 0,6%
   Machinery: 1.099 tons, 12,0%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3.196 tons, 34,9%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1.441 tons, 15,7%
   Miscellaneous weights: 40 tons, 0,4%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     13.946 lbs / 6.326 Kg = 61,6 x 7,7 " / 195 mm shells or 2,4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,18
   Metacentric height 4,2 ft / 1,3 m
   Roll period: 14,6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 78 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,34
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,20

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,540
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,12 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20,81 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 65
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 4,92 ft / 1,50 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Mid (50%):      14,47 ft / 4,41 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   14,47 ft / 4,41 m
      - Stern:      14,47 ft / 4,41 m
      - Average freeboard:   15,67 ft / 4,78 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 71,2%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 131,5%
   Waterplane Area: 21.612 Square feet or 2.008 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 111%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 108 lbs/sq ft or 530 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,95
      - Longitudinal: 1,56
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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The newest class of French Battleships. 2 more than half build, and  getting bigger by the day.

Valeur, French Battleship laid down 1906 (Engine 1909)

Displacement:
   17.489 t light; 18.559 t standard; 20.285 t normal; 21.666 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   498,69 ft / 492,13 ft x 88,58 ft x 27,89 ft (normal load)
   152,00 m / 150,00 m x 27,00 m  x 8,50 m

Armament:
      6 - 13,39" / 340 mm guns (3x2 guns), 1.322,77lbs / 600,00kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      12 - 7,68" / 195 mm guns (6x2 guns), 226,24lbs / 102,62kg shells, 1906 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on side, all amidships
      18 - 4,13" / 105 mm guns in single mounts, 35,32lbs / 16,02kg shells, 1903 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 6 raised mounts
      12 - 2,76" / 70,0 mm guns in single mounts, 10,47lbs / 4,75kg shells, 1906 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 6 raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 11.413 lbs / 5.177 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11,0" / 279 mm   320,00 ft / 97,54 m   11,29 ft / 3,44 m
   Ends:   8,00" / 203 mm   172,00 ft / 52,43 m   11,29 ft / 3,44 m
   Upper:   8,00" / 203 mm   320,00 ft / 97,54 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 100% of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1,50" / 38 mm   500,00 ft / 152,40 m   25,00 ft / 7,62 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11,0" / 279 mm   9,00" / 229 mm      9,00" / 229 mm
   2nd:   8,00" / 203 mm   5,00" / 127 mm      5,00" / 127 mm
   3rd:   2,00" / 51 mm   2,00" / 51 mm      2,00" / 51 mm

   - Armour deck: 2,00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 11,00" / 279 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 24.157 shp / 18.021 Kw = 20,00 kts
   Range 6.000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3.106 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   849 - 1.104

Cost:
   £1,902 million / $7,607 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1.334 tons, 6,6%
   Armour: 7.402 tons, 36,5%
      - Belts: 3.249 tons, 16,0%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 694 tons, 3,4%
      - Armament: 2.121 tons, 10,5%
      - Armour Deck: 1.162 tons, 5,7%
      - Conning Tower: 176 tons, 0,9%
   Machinery: 1.208 tons, 6,0%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 7.445 tons, 36,7%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2.796 tons, 13,8%
   Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 0,5%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     26.413 lbs / 11.981 Kg = 22,0 x 13,4 " / 340 mm shells or 5,0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
   Metacentric height 5,0 ft / 1,5 m
   Roll period: 16,7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,65
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,39

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0,584
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5,56 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22,18 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      26,90 ft / 8,20 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Mid (50%):      16,40 ft / 5,00 m (15,52 ft / 4,73 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   15,52 ft / 4,73 m
      - Stern:      15,52 ft / 4,73 m
      - Average freeboard:   17,69 ft / 5,39 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 90,3%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 117,6%
   Waterplane Area: 31.410 Square feet or 2.918 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 99%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 171 lbs/sq ft or 834 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,93
      - Longitudinal: 1,93
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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Le Magnificent, France/UKA Liner laid down 1902 (Engine 1909)
Sistership of RMS Mercury.

Displacement:
   43.201 t light; 44.621 t standard; 58.997 t normal; 70.498 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   856,70 ft / 850,00 ft x 105,00 ft x 32,00 ft (normal load)
   261,12 m / 259,08 m x 32,00 m  x 9,75 m


Safety features:
   

   - double hull with double bottom and full height bulkheads
      1,18" / 30 mm   754,59 ft / 230,00 m   29,53 ft / 9,00 m

   - High strenght deck: 1,38" / 35 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 126.896 shp / 94.665 Kw = 27,00 kts
   Range 8.000nm at 20,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 25.877 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   1.892 - 2.460

Cost:
   £2,599 million / $10,396 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   
                Machinery: 6.345 tons, 10,8%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 15.785 tons, 26,8%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 15.796 tons, 26,8%
   Miscellaneous weights: 18.000 tons, 30,5%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     100.418 lbs / 45.549 Kg = 1.199,4 x 5,5 " / 140 mm shells or 11,8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,13
   Metacentric height 6,8 ft / 2,1 m
   Roll period: 16,9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 84 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,12
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2,00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,723
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,10 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 29,15 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 42
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      38,00 ft / 11,58 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   37,00 ft / 11,28 m
      - Mid (50%):      37,00 ft / 11,28 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   37,00 ft / 11,28 m
      - Stern:      37,00 ft / 11,28 m
      - Average freeboard:   37,08 ft / 11,30 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 89,0%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 272,0%
   Waterplane Area: 73.009 Square feet or 6.783 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 167%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 141 lbs/sq ft or 689 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,95
      - Longitudinal: 1,59
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

18000tons of misc weight is:

8.50t / 1st class cabin passenger .........800 passengers = 6800tons
4.25t / 2nd class cabin passenger.........1000 passengers = 4250tons
1.78t / Steerage passenger......................2500 passengers = 4450tons
Total passengers.......................................4300 passengers = 14900tons
Cargo = 1500tons
Extras inc wireless & more seaboats = 1000tons

The first tests she made in open waters were almost a disaster. The incredibly complicated engines did put the power these promised to the water, but at a cost. Around 24 kts -75%- of power, the moving masses of generators, turbines and electrical motors created harmonics and those caused vibrations.

When the engines were at 100% the vibrations were so bad, hull seams started opening and heavy machinery worked lose on the stools.

As she was build, and the solving of these problems would have added months, if not years to her maiden trip as a liner, the simple solution was to limit her engines to 65% of maximum power.
Even on 65% the disadvantages of the power were obvious, the decks astern of the smokestacks were awash with the black smoke of the coal burning.
This obviously isn't a good thing when the ladies and gentlemen want to stroll the deck, trow a pentanqueball in the , designed as a prestine ochre,  gravel field or enjoy a good book in the comfortable deck chair.

The owners have decreed that maximum speed allowed to the ship, as liner, is 22 kts. This reduces smoke, and the smokestacks are capable to keep it from the deck in most weatherconditions.

Still these huge ships are classed as the fastest liners in use as the theoretical top speed is only bettered by dedicated warships and certain yachts that are more engine than ship.

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Le Magnificent, France/UKA Liner/AMC laid down 1902 (Engine 1909)

Displacement:
   43.201 t light; 44.621 t standard; 58.997 t normal; 70.498 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   856,70 ft / 850,00 ft x 105,00 ft x 32,00 ft (normal load)
   261,12 m / 259,08 m x 32,00 m  x 9,75 m

Armament:
      20 - 5,51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 92,59lbs / 42,00kg shells, 1902 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread
      20 - 2,76" / 70,0 mm guns in single mounts, 10,47lbs / 4,75kg shells, 1902 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      20 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm guns in single mounts, 0,48lbs / 0,22kg shells, 1902 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 2.071 lbs / 939 kg   Shells per gun, main battery: 200

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Ends:   Unarmoured

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1,18" / 30 mm   754,59 ft / 230,00 m   29,53 ft / 9,00 m

   - Armour deck: 1,38" / 35 mm
Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 126.896 shp / 94.665 Kw = 27,00 kts
   Range 8.000nm at 20,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 25.877 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   1.892 - 2.460

Cost:
   £2,599 million / $10,396 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 237 tons, 0,4%
   Armour: 2.835 tons, 4,8%
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 974 tons, 1,7%
      - Armament: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armour Deck: 1.861 tons, 3,2%
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0,0%
   Machinery: 6.345 tons, 10,8%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 15.785 tons, 26,8%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 15.796 tons, 26,8%
   Miscellaneous weights: 18.000 tons, 30,5%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     100.418 lbs / 45.549 Kg = 1.199,4 x 5,5 " / 140 mm shells or 11,8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,13
   Metacentric height 6,8 ft / 2,1 m
   Roll period: 16,9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 84 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,12
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2,00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,723
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,10 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 29,15 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 42
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      38,00 ft / 11,58 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   37,00 ft / 11,28 m
      - Mid (50%):      37,00 ft / 11,28 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   37,00 ft / 11,28 m
      - Stern:      37,00 ft / 11,28 m
      - Average freeboard:   37,08 ft / 11,30 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 89,0%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 272,0%
   Waterplane Area: 73.009 Square feet or 6.783 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 167%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 141 lbs/sq ft or 689 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,95
      - Longitudinal: 1,59
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

18000tons of misc weight is:

8.50t / 1st class cabin passenger .........800 passengers = 6800tons
4.25t / 2nd class cabin passenger.........1000 passengers = 4250tons
1.78t / Steerage passenger......................2500 passengers = 4450tons
Total passengers.......................................4300 passengers = 14900tons
Cargo = 1500tons
Extras inc wireless & more seaboats = 1000tons

or

17000tons = 8500soldiers
1000tons = cargo
400tons = more seaboats and Wireless

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The extensive rebuild ships were a succesfull attempt to create a workship (think Kearsarge) to aid the digging of the Great Canal.

The forward twin 10.83L30 turrest has fired their last shots in 1908 in a salute to celibrate the finishing of the Great Canal. The munition stores are still there, as well as the ancient shells, but powdercharges are replaced regulary as the old ones are dispatched together with other blasting charges in the great works these ships do.
The crews for manning these guns are still in French naval pay, but these are also acting as officers and engineers on the civilian flagged ships. Upkeep is done on  civilian money and is payed by the jobs thses ships do.

Gargantua and Pantagruel, Great Canal Company Excavators laid down 1883

Displacement:
   11,077 t light; 11,403 t standard; 13,155 t normal; 14,556 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   344.49 ft / 344.49 ft x 73.00 ft (Bulges 90.00 ft) x 27.00 ft (normal load)
   105.00 m / 105.00 m x 22.25 m (Bulges 27.43 m)  x 8.23 m

Armament:
      2 - 10.83" / 275 mm guns (1x2 guns), 567.92lbs / 257.61kg shells, 1883 Model
     Breech loading guns in a turret (on a barbette)
     on centreline forward
   Weight of broadside 1,136 lbs / 515 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   4.00" / 102 mm   344.49 ft / 105.00 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   2.00" / 51 mm      2.00" / 51 mm

   - Armour deck: 2.95" / 75 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 1,740 ihp / 1,298 Kw = 10.00 kts
   Range 7,500nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,153 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   613 - 798

Cost:
   £0.555 million / $2.222 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 142 tons, 1.1 %
   Armour: 1,465 tons, 11.1 %
      - Belts: 408 tons, 3.1 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 99 tons, 0.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 958 tons, 7.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 346 tons, 2.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,624 tons, 27.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,078 tons, 15.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 5,500 tons, 41.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     14,895 lbs / 6,756 Kg = 26.2 x 10.8 " / 275 mm shells or 2.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.00
   Metacentric height 3.1 ft / 0.9 m
   Roll period: 21.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.10
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.550
   Length to Beam Ratio: 3.83 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.56 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 26 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Mid (50 %):      16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Stern:      16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Average freeboard:   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 62.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 87.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 17,550 Square feet or 1,630 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 150 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 132 lbs/sq ft or 645 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.92
      - Longitudinal: 2.97
      - Overall: 1.03
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Excavator build on hull of former battleships Devastation and Terrible.

6500 tons misc weight includes 800t 10000HP twin turbo/electric powerplant, 2700tons dragline, control cabin & boom arm, 2000tons extra fuel, & 1000t spares & explosives stores.

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Pre refit Demarce III protected cruisers.

Demarce III, France protected cruiser laid down 1911 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   5.924 t light; 6.193 t standard; 7.284 t normal; 8.157 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   529,20 ft / 528,22 ft x 49,21 ft x 19,19 ft (normal load)
   161,30 m / 161,00 m x 15,00 m  x 5,85 m

Armament:
      8 - 6,50" / 165 mm guns (4x2 guns), 143,30lbs / 65,00kg shells, 1911 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      8 - 2,76" / 70,0 mm guns in single mounts, 11,02lbs / 5,00kg shells, 1911 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, evenly spread, 4 raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 1.235 lbs / 560 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 175
   8 - 20,0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,00" / 76 mm   380,00 ft / 115,82 m   14,50 ft / 4,42 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 111% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2,00" / 51 mm   1,00" / 25 mm      3,00" / 76 mm
   2nd:   1,00" / 25 mm   1,00" / 25 mm      2,00" / 51 mm

   - Armour deck: 1,50" / 38 mm, Conning tower: 5,00" / 127 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 42.360 shp / 31.600 Kw = 28,00 kts
   Range 8.000nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1.964 tons

Complement:
   393 - 512

Cost:
   £0,568 million / $2,271 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 148 tons, 2,0%
   Armour: 1.272 tons, 17,5%
      - Belts: 674 tons, 9,3%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armament: 72 tons, 1,0%
      - Armour Deck: 485 tons, 6,7%
      - Conning Tower: 40 tons, 0,6%
   Machinery: 1.689 tons, 23,2%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2.565 tons, 35,2%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1.360 tons, 18,7%
   Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 3,4%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     8.774 lbs / 3.980 Kg = 64,0 x 6,5 " / 165 mm shells or 1,3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,15
   Metacentric height 2,2 ft / 0,7 m
   Roll period: 13,8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,65
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,25

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low quarterdeck
   Block coefficient: 0,511
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10,73 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22,98 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,98 ft / 0,30 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      23,62 ft / 7,20 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   18,04 ft / 5,50 m
      - Mid (50%):      16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   9,84 ft / 3,00 m (16,40 ft / 5,00 m before break)
      - Stern:      9,84 ft / 3,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   16,44 ft / 5,01 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 95,4%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 114,9%
   Waterplane Area: 17.495 Square feet or 1.625 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 120%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 88 lbs/sq ft or 429 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,97
      - Longitudinal: 1,28
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Accepting the fact that oil firing is the future, these ships are the first large combatants fitted with 100% oil firing.

A longer hull was created to modernise the weapon lay out and gain room for modern seawarefare tools.


The adaptation of the twin torpedo mounts from Italia, gives this 3th incarnation of the Demarce a more heavy punch. 

The dedication of 50 tons to Crew comfort makes this vessel ready for deployment in every weatherzone on earth, except the artic ice.
35 tons is dedicated to the new torpedo tubes and reloads for  these big weapons.

165 tons is reserved for modern warfare tools.

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Removed from the Active warships tread.

The Chardon class.


Generic French sloop with foreign turbines.
Build between 1900 and 1905, and seen everywere.

Chardon class, France Sloop laid down 1900 (Engine 1906)

Displacement:
   1.001 t light; 1.048 t standard; 1.315 t normal; 1.529 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   325,80 ft / 324,80 ft x 32,48 ft x 11,48 ft (normal load)
   99,30 m / 99,00 m x 9,90 m  x 3,50 m

Armament:
      2 - 5,51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 92,59lbs / 42,00kg shells, 1900 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 2,76" / 70,0 mm guns in single mounts, 10,47lbs / 4,75kg shells, 1900 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      2 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm guns in single mounts, 0,48lbs / 0,22kg shells, 1900 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 228 lbs / 103 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   4 - 18,0" / 457,2 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,50" / 13 mm   0,50" / 13 mm            -
   2nd:   0,50" / 13 mm   0,50" / 13 mm            -
   3rd:   0,50" / 13 mm   0,50" / 13 mm            -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 4.553 shp / 3.396 Kw = 20,00 kts
   Range 6.000nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 481 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   108 - 141

Cost:
   £0,103 million / $0,411 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 26 tons, 2,0%
   Armour: 9 tons, 0,7%
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armament: 9 tons, 0,7%
      - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0,0%
   Machinery: 325 tons, 24,7%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 601 tons, 45,7%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 314 tons, 23,9%
   Miscellaneous weights: 40 tons, 3,0%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     2.094 lbs / 950 Kg = 25,0 x 5,5 " / 140 mm shells or 0,7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,20
   Metacentric height 1,3 ft / 0,4 m
   Roll period: 12,0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,33
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2,00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0,380
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18,02 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 41 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1,00 ft / 0,30 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      20,00 ft / 6,10 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   18,00 ft / 5,49 m
      - Mid (50%):      18,00 ft / 5,49 m (10,00 ft / 3,05 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
      - Stern:      10,00 ft / 3,05 m
      - Average freeboard:   14,16 ft / 4,32 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 99,6%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 125,5%
   Waterplane Area: 6.432 Square feet or 598 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 145%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 47 lbs/sq ft or 228 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,87
      - Longitudinal: 3,31
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Thanks to Tanthalas to get the basic version of this ready.This class is the Frenchified version

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On a request, I dug up the old A class liners from the depths of my memory.

A lost liner class  from the Nverse II.

Aphrodite, Arthemis, Athena, and the oddly named Adonis. Considered very handsome ships when build, and lucky during the decennia these old ones (20 years +) still do the job, but the hulls are getting tired.

Aphrodite, French Liner laid down 1895

Displacement:
   9.920 t light; 10.180 t standard; 13.006 t normal; 15.266 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   544,62 ft / 541,34 ft x 65,62 ft x 22,97 ft (normal load)
   166,00 m / 165,00 m x 20,00 m  x 7,00 m

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 17.306 ihp / 12.910 Kw = 20,00 kts
   Range 6.500nm at 15,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 5.085 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   608 - 791

Cost:
   £0,758 million / $3,031 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0,0%
   Machinery: 2.933 tons, 22,6%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3.787 tons, 29,1%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3.085 tons, 23,7%
   Miscellaneous weights: 3.200 tons, 24,6%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     16.083 lbs / 7.295 Kg = 148,9 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 1,7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,21
   Metacentric height 3,8 ft / 1,2 m
   Roll period: 14,2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2,00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,558
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,25 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23,27 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 38 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      25,59 ft / 7,80 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Mid (50%):      22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Stern:      22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   23,18 ft / 7,06 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 100,3%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 179,7%
   Waterplane Area: 24.976 Square feet or 2.320 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 143%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 92 lbs/sq ft or 448 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,94
      - Longitudinal: 1,81
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, rides out heavy weather easily

180 passengers first class
250 passengers second class
700 passengers steerage

50 tons old marconi apparature.
150 tons nick nacks

Capable of 1500 men troop transport

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The Original Léopards.

December 1915
After a year of extensive testing the 6 CSA build Léopards are officialy entered into the books of the marine nationale.
A bit later, the Italian/ Maorian-UKN supplied Leopards entered service, officaly all worked up  HY 01 1916. bringing up the total  to 15.

Léopard, French Heavy TB laid down 1913 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   1.001 t light; 1.025 t standard; 1.130 t normal; 1.214 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   354,33 ft / 354,33 ft x 29,07 ft x 9,84 ft (normal load)
   108,00 m / 108,00 m x 8,86 m  x 3,00 m

Armament:
      2 - 2,76" / 70,0 mm guns in single mounts, 10,47lbs / 4,75kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline, all aft, 1 raised mount aft
   Weight of broadside 21 lbs / 9 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   8 - 20,0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 28.517 shp / 21.273 Kw = 33,00 kts
   Calculator Adjusted speed 34 kts
   Range 1.655nm at 16,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 188 tons

Complement:
   96 - 126

Cost:
   £0,140 million / $0,559 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3 tons, 0,2%
   Machinery: 648 tons, 57,4%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 310 tons, 27,4%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 129 tons, 11,4%
   Miscellaneous weights: 40 tons, 3,5%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     279 lbs / 127 Kg = 26,7 x 2,8 " / 70 mm shells or 0,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,34
   Metacentric height 1,3 ft / 0,4 m
   Roll period: 10,6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,03
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,03

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,391
   Length to Beam Ratio: 12,22 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18,82 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 68
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      15,09 ft / 4,60 m
      - Forecastle (15%):   13,78 ft / 4,20 m
      - Mid (27%):      13,12 ft / 4,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   9,84 ft / 3,00 m
      - Stern:      8,86 ft / 2,70 m
      - Average freeboard:   11,82 ft / 3,60 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 190,7%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 76,1%
   Waterplane Area: 6.310 Square feet or 586 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 48%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 26 lbs/sq ft or 128 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,50
      - Longitudinal: 1,09
      - Overall: 0,54
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

the misc weight is divided:
16 tons of torpedo's 8 in the tubes, 8 reloads
-crew comfort messures
-marconi instalation
-reserve weight for later improvements.

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Before her rebuild of 1917.

The replacement of the Ill Fated Greater Napoleon.

The 3 main gun turrets are the original ones from Greater Napoleon.

Napoleon the Great, French battleship laid down 1903 (Engine 1909)
Displacement:
   18.522 t light; 19.454 t standard; 21.243 t normal; 22.675 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   547,90 ft / 541,34 ft x 82,02 ft (Bulges 95,14 ft) x 26,25 ft (normal load)
   167,00 m / 165,00 m x 25,00 m (Bulges 29,00 m)  x 8,00 m

Armament:
      6 - 13,39" / 340 mm guns (3x2 guns), 1.322,77lbs / 600,00kg shells, 1899 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      4 - 10,83" / 275 mm guns (2x2 guns), 634,55lbs / 287,83kg shells, 1905 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on side, all amidships
      12 - 4,13" / 105 mm guns in single mounts, 35,32lbs / 16,02kg shells, 1903 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      12 - 2,76" / 70,0 mm guns in single mounts, 10,47lbs / 4,75kg shells, 1903 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 10 raised mounts
      4 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm guns in single mounts, 0,48lbs / 0,22kg shells, 1903 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 11.026 lbs / 5.001 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 80

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12,0" / 305 mm   300,00 ft / 91,44 m   13,12 ft / 4,00 m
   Ends:   7,00" / 178 mm   240,00 ft / 73,15 m   10,86 ft / 3,31 m
     1,34 ft / 0,41 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   7,00" / 178 mm   341,21 ft / 104,00 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 85% of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
      1,50" / 38 mm   540,21 ft / 164,66 m   25,59 ft / 7,80 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12,0" / 305 mm   8,00" / 203 mm      8,00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   9,00" / 229 mm   6,00" / 152 mm      6,00" / 152 mm
   3rd:   3,00" / 76 mm         -               -
   4th:   1,50" / 38 mm   1,00" / 25 mm            -

   - Armour deck: 2,00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 12,00" / 305 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 24.009 shp / 17.911 Kw = 20,00 kts
   Range 6.000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3.221 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   879 - 1.143

Cost:
   £1,896 million / $7,585 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1.286 tons, 6,1%
   Armour: 7.605 tons, 35,8%
      - Belts: 3.642 tons, 17,1%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 767 tons, 3,6%
      - Armament: 1.851 tons, 8,7%
      - Armour Deck: 1.147 tons, 5,4%
      - Conning Tower: 198 tons, 0,9%
   Machinery: 1.200 tons, 5,7%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 8.331 tons, 39,2%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2.721 tons, 12,8%
   Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 0,5%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     31.865 lbs / 14.454 Kg = 26,6 x 13,4 " / 340 mm shells or 6,4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,16
   Metacentric height 4,9 ft / 1,5 m
   Roll period: 18,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 81 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,60
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,61

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,550
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5,69 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23,27 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      27,89 ft / 8,50 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   24,61 ft / 7,50 m
      - Mid (50%):      17,68 ft / 5,39 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   17,68 ft / 5,39 m
      - Stern:      17,68 ft / 5,39 m
      - Average freeboard:   20,37 ft / 6,21 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 85,2%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 129,5%
   Waterplane Area: 30.987 Square feet or 2.879 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 177 lbs/sq ft or 863 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,93
      - Longitudinal: 1,84
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

The hull from Napoleon the Great, with the knowledge gathered all over the world
The 2 12 000 HP turbines are the first ones delivered by the UKA.


The 100 tons misc weight represent the marconi and flag facilities.

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The first time Glorious France did build 6 battleships as a uniform class.

Republique class, French Battleships laid down 1897
Republique
Patrie
Democratie
Justice
Liberté
Verité

Displacement:
   14.097 t light; 14.894 t standard; 16.657 t normal; 18.067 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   433,07 ft / 426,51 ft x 80,38 ft x 28,87 ft (normal load)
   132,00 m / 130,00 m x 24,50 m  x 8,80 m

Armament:
      4 - 12,01" / 305 mm guns (2x2 guns), 865,70lbs / 392,68kg shells, 1897 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 10,83" / 275 mm guns (2x2 guns), 634,55lbs / 287,83kg shells, 1897 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on side, all amidships
      12 - 6,50" / 165 mm guns in single mounts, 137,06lbs / 62,17kg shells, 1897 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     6 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in all but light seas
      12 - 2,76" / 70,0 mm guns in single mounts, 10,47lbs / 4,75kg shells, 1897 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 4 raised mounts
      12 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm guns in single mounts, 3,17lbs / 1,44kg shells, 1897 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 7.809 lbs / 3.542 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100
   4 - 18,0" / 457,2 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13,0" / 330 mm   277,23 ft / 84,50 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
   Ends:   4,00" / 102 mm   149,26 ft / 45,49 m   10,76 ft / 3,28 m
   Upper:   4,00" / 102 mm   277,23 ft / 84,50 m   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
     Main Belt covers 100% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13,0" / 330 mm   10,0" / 254 mm      10,0" / 254 mm
   2nd:   12,0" / 305 mm   10,0" / 254 mm      10,0" / 254 mm
   3rd:   4,00" / 102 mm   1,00" / 25 mm      1,00" / 25 mm

   - Armour deck: 3,00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 13,00" / 330 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 13.402 ihp / 9.998 Kw = 17,50 kts
   Range 6.000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3.172 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   733 - 953

Cost:
   £1,621 million / $6,484 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 976 tons, 5,9%
   Armour: 5.285 tons, 31,7%
      - Belts: 2.021 tons, 12,1%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armament: 1.704 tons, 10,2%
      - Armour Deck: 1.377 tons, 8,3%
      - Conning Tower: 183 tons, 1,1%
   Machinery: 2.197 tons, 13,2%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5.539 tons, 33,3%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2.560 tons, 15,4%
   Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 0,6%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     15.937 lbs / 7.229 Kg = 18,4 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 2,1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11
   Metacentric height 4,4 ft / 1,3 m
   Roll period: 16,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 83 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,61
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,67

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,589
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5,31 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20,65 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      25,59 ft / 7,80 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   18,04 ft / 5,50 m
      - Mid (50%):      14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Stern:      14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Average freeboard:   16,52 ft / 5,03 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 91,6%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 100,1%
   Waterplane Area: 24.817 Square feet or 2.306 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 155 lbs/sq ft or 757 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,91
      - Longitudinal: 2,41
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

All scrapped.