Need some designs, Austria-Hungary

[miketr]

Hey Darman has a couple of designs up for Austria but I need to make some 'minor' changes and I need some other designs.  As I am trying to feel my way back into the rules if people would be willing to help me out with some designs I would be grateful.

Armored Cruiser

Max of 120 Meters, 19+ knots, 4,000 NM @ 10 knots (I want to place 1 one Black Sea, so need a bit more range)
Weapons to choose from http://www.navalism.org/index.php/topic,5977.msg78610.html#msg78610

Coast Defense Battleship
The current choices are good but I will stay with historic Hapsburg weapons so at game start nothing larger than a 240mm main.  So the 'Schwarzenburg' needs to be redesigned to 240mm guns.  Perhaps a bit more speed?  Try to keep them to 9,500 light tons displacement or less.

Protected Cruiser
Weapons, 19 cm / 15 cm / 12 cm main
20.5+ knots speed
Keep 'em under 4,500 tons light displacement

Michael

[KWorld]

A revised Schwarzenburg: added 4 19cm singles and a half-knot of speed.

Schwarzenburg, Austro-Hungarian Empire Coast Defence Battleship laid down 1896

Displacement:
   8,840 t light; 9,307 t standard; 9,835 t normal; 10,257 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (403.54 ft / 393.70 ft) x 62.34 ft x (24.61 / 25.45 ft)
   (123.00 m / 120.00 m) x 19.00 m  x (7.50 / 7.76 m)

Armament:
      4 - 9.45" / 240 mm 45.0 cal guns - 374.79lbs / 170.00kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1895 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 7.48" / 190 mm 45.0 cal guns - 213.85lbs / 97.00kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1895 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      12 - 5.91" / 150 mm 45.0 cal guns - 99.87lbs / 45.30kg shells, 180 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1896 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in any sea
      12 - 2.76" / 70.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 9.90lbs / 4.49kg shells, 400 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
     4 x Single mounts layout not set
      4 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 3,672 lbs / 1,665 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   236.22 ft / 72.00 m   9.48 ft / 2.89 m
   Ends:   5.91" / 150 mm   157.45 ft / 47.99 m   9.48 ft / 2.89 m
   Upper:   5.91" / 150 mm   236.22 ft / 72.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 92 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   8.27" / 210 mm      9.45" / 240 mm
   2nd:   7.09" / 180 mm   4.72" / 120 mm      5.91" / 150 mm
   3rd:   4.72" / 120 mm         -         3.94" / 100 mm

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.56" / 65 mm
   Forecastle: 1.97" / 50 mm  Quarter deck: 2.56" / 65 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 12.60" / 320 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 10,826 ihp / 8,076 Kw = 18.00 kts
   Range 3,500nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 950 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   493 - 641

Cost:
   £0.866 million / $3.463 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 824 tons, 8.4 %
      - Guns: 824 tons, 8.4 %
   Armour: 3,745 tons, 38.1 %
      - Belts: 1,995 tons, 20.3 %
      - Armament: 809 tons, 8.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 816 tons, 8.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 125 tons, 1.3 %
   Machinery: 1,804 tons, 18.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,455 tons, 25.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 994 tons, 10.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 12 tons, 0.1 %
      - Hull above water: 12 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     9,443 lbs / 4,283 Kg = 22.4 x 9.4 " / 240 mm shells or 1.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.16
   Metacentric height 3.3 ft / 1.0 m
   Roll period: 14.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.44
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.23

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.570 / 0.575
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.32 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.84 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 57
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m
      - Average freeboard:      11.48 ft / 3.50 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 88.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 77.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 17,452 Square feet or 1,621 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 96 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 115 lbs/sq ft or 560 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.62
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Miscellaneous weight allows for 4 broadside above water 16" torpedo tubes and 8 reload torpedoes.

[KWorld]

And an AC that's a touch shorter and longer-ranged than Kaiser Karl (but not as fast):

Transylvania, Austro-Hungarian Empire Armored Cruiser laid down 1898

Displacement:
   6,017 t light; 6,260 t standard; 6,716 t normal; 7,081 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (387.14 ft / 377.30 ft) x 57.41 ft x (20.67 / 21.53 ft)
   (118.00 m / 115.00 m) x 17.50 m  x (6.30 / 6.56 m)

Armament:
      2 - 9.45" / 240 mm 45.0 cal guns - 374.79lbs / 170.00kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1898 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 5.91" / 150 mm 45.0 cal guns - 99.87lbs / 45.30kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1898 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      16 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 3.00lbs / 1.36kg shells, 300 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1898 Model
     16 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1,597 lbs / 724 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5.91" / 150 mm   267.88 ft / 81.65 m   9.09 ft / 2.77 m
   Ends:   3.94" / 100 mm   109.38 ft / 33.34 m   9.09 ft / 2.77 m
   Upper:   4.72" / 120 mm   267.88 ft / 81.65 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 109 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   8.27" / 210 mm   5.91" / 150 mm      8.27" / 210 mm
   2nd:   2.95" / 75 mm         -         1.97" / 50 mm

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.57" / 40 mm
   Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.57" / 40 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 8.27" / 210 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 11,617 ihp / 8,666 Kw = 19.50 kts
   Range 4,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 822 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   370 - 482

Cost:
   £0.595 million / $2.379 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 325 tons, 4.8 %
      - Guns: 325 tons, 4.8 %
   Armour: 1,968 tons, 29.3 %
      - Belts: 1,183 tons, 17.6 %
      - Armament: 299 tons, 4.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 423 tons, 6.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 63 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 1,874 tons, 27.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,841 tons, 27.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 699 tons, 10.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 10 tons, 0.1 %
      - Hull below water: 10 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6,384 lbs / 2,896 Kg = 15.1 x 9.4 " / 240 mm shells or 1.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.38
   Metacentric height 3.8 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 12.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 78 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.27
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.56

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.525 / 0.531
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.57 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.42 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   17.00 %,  18.04 ft / 5.50 m,  13.94 ft / 4.25 m
      - Forward deck:   20.00 %,  13.94 ft / 4.25 m,  13.94 ft / 4.25 m
      - Aft deck:   51.00 %,  13.94 ft / 4.25 m,  13.94 ft / 4.25 m
      - Quarter deck:   12.00 %,  13.94 ft / 4.25 m,  13.94 ft / 4.25 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.22 ft / 4.34 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 107.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 106.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 14,769 Square feet or 1,372 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 98 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 90 lbs/sq ft or 441 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.87
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Miscellaneous weight allows for 2 submerged broadside 16" torpedo tubes with 8 reload torpedoes.

[KWorld]

And a protected cruiser.  I'd have used a 100mm secondary battery, but the Austrians haven't developed that yet.

SMS Zenta, Austrian Protected Cruiser laid down 1895

Displacement:
   3,388 t light; 3,499 t standard; 3,842 t normal; 4,117 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (364.33 ft / 354.33 ft) x 43.64 ft x (17.22 / 18.15 ft)
   (111.05 m / 108.00 m) x 13.30 m  x (5.25 / 5.53 m)

Armament:
      2 - 7.48" / 190 mm 45.0 cal guns - 213.85lbs / 97.00kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1895 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 2.76" / 70.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 9.90lbs / 4.49kg shells, 300 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 3.00lbs / 1.36kg shells, 400 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 511 lbs / 232 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   2.95" / 75 mm   230.32 ft / 70.20 m   4.10 ft / 1.25 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.97" / 50 mm         -         1.97" / 50 mm
   2nd:   0.59" / 15 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.38" / 35 mm
   Forecastle: 1.38" / 35 mm  Quarter deck: 1.38" / 35 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 2.95" / 75 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 10,921 ihp / 8,147 Kw = 21.00 kts
   Range 4,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 617 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   243 - 317

Cost:
   £0.412 million / $1.648 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 128 tons, 3.3 %
      - Guns: 128 tons, 3.3 %
   Armour: 419 tons, 10.9 %
      - Belts: 117 tons, 3.0 %
      - Armament: 21 tons, 0.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 266 tons, 6.9 %
      - Conning Tower: 16 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 1,779 tons, 46.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,049 tons, 27.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 454 tons, 11.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 12 tons, 0.3 %
      - Hull above water: 12 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,634 lbs / 741 Kg = 7.8 x 7.5 " / 190 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.51
   Metacentric height 2.9 ft / 0.9 m
   Roll period: 10.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.18
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.26

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.505 / 0.513
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.12 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.82 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 4.00 ft / 1.22 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  14.76 ft / 4.50 m,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      10.68 ft / 3.26 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 160.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 82.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 10,349 Square feet or 961 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 84 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 70 lbs/sq ft or 341 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.39
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Miscellaneous weight allows for 3 above-water 16" torpedo tubes (bow, port, & starboard), with 9 reload torpedoes.

[Jefgte]

France didnt use 2 main guns, That's not enough to have good hit probability
On the last class CP5, I use 2T2x164 from Dupleix class.


CP5, France CP5 laid down 1899

Displacement:
   4 500 t light; 4 674 t standard; 5 298 t normal; 5 797 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (391.85 ft / 388.85 ft) x 49.20 ft x (16.86 / 18.13 ft)
   (119.44 m / 118.52 m) x 15.00 m  x (5.14 / 5.53 m)

Armament:
      4 - 6.45" / 164 mm 45.0 cal guns - 135.32lbs / 61.38kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1899 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 3.95" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 31.09lbs / 14.10kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1899 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      2 - 2.56" / 65.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 8.47lbs / 3.84kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1899 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      2 raised mounts
      2 - 0.30" / 7.6 mm 55.0 cal guns - 0.01lbs / 0.00kg shells, 400 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1899 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 745 lbs / 338 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 15.8" / 400 mm, 13.13 ft / 4.00 m torpedoes - 0.367 t each, 0.734 t total
   submerged bow & stern tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      2 - 15.8" / 400 mm, 13.13 ft / 4.00 m torpedoes - 0.367 t each, 0.734 t total
   submerged side tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.95" / 75 mm   365.00 ft / 111.25 m   7.22 ft / 2.20 m
   Ends:   0.97" / 25 mm     22.00 ft / 6.71 m   7.22 ft / 2.20 m
     1.85 ft / 0.56 m Unarmoured ends
     Main Belt covers 144 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.95" / 75 mm   0.77" / 20 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   2nd:   0.60" / 15 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.40" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.57" / 40 mm
   Forecastle: 0.77" / 20 mm  Quarter deck: 0.77" / 20 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 1.97" / 50 mm, Aft 1.77" / 45 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 13 600 ihp / 10 145 Kw = 21.13 kts
   Range 6 500nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 123 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   309 - 403

Cost:
   £0.521 million / $2.083 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 163 tons, 3.1 %
      - Guns: 160 tons, 3.0 %
      - Weapons: 3 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 743 tons, 14.0 %
      - Belts: 310 tons, 5.9 %
      - Armament: 56 tons, 1.1 %
      - Armour Deck: 353 tons, 6.7 %
      - Conning Towers: 24 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 2 159 tons, 40.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 405 tons, 26.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 798 tons, 15.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 30 tons, 0.6 %
      - On freeboard deck: 30 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     2 992 lbs / 1 357 Kg = 22.3 x 6.5 " / 164 mm shells or 2.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.56
   Metacentric height 3.6 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 10.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 78 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.19
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.35

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.575 / 0.585
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.90 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.72 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1.00 ft / 0.30 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  14.45 ft / 4.40 m,  12.80 ft / 3.90 m
      - Forward deck:   25.00 %,  12.80 ft / 3.90 m,  11.82 ft / 3.60 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  11.82 ft / 3.60 m,  11.82 ft / 3.60 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  11.82 ft / 3.60 m,  11.82 ft / 3.60 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.27 ft / 3.74 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 144.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 101.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 13 669 Square feet or 1 270 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 93 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 74 lbs/sq ft or 360 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.26
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

AC Dupleix turrets
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AC2, France AC2 laid down 1898

Displacement:
   7 500 t light; 7 864 t standard; 8 802 t normal; 9 553 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (463.50 ft / 460.50 ft) x 59.05 ft x (19.70 / 21.06 ft)
   (141.27 m / 140.36 m) x 18.00 m  x (6.01 / 6.42 m)

Armament:
      2 - 7.65" / 194 mm 45.0 cal guns - 225.75lbs / 102.40kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1898 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 7.65" / 194 mm 45.0 cal guns - 225.75lbs / 102.40kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1898 Model
     8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 - 3.95" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 31.09lbs / 14.10kg shells, 220 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1898 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 2.56" / 65.0 mm 55.0 cal guns - 9.06lbs / 4.11kg shells, 350 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1898 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      4 - 0.30" / 7.6 mm 55.0 cal guns - 0.01lbs / 0.00kg shells, 500 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1898 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2 542 lbs / 1 153 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 15.8" / 400 mm, 13.13 ft / 4.00 m torpedoes - 0.353 t each, 0.706 t total
   submerged bow & stern tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      2 - 15.8" / 400 mm, 13.13 ft / 4.00 m torpedoes - 0.353 t each, 0.706 t total
   submerged side tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.95" / 100 mm   400.25 ft / 122.00 m   7.87 ft / 2.40 m
   Ends:   1.77" / 45 mm     60.00 ft / 18.29 m   7.87 ft / 2.40 m
   Upper:   1.77" / 45 mm   400.25 ft / 122.00 m   9.85 ft / 3.00 m
     Main Belt covers 134 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   3.95" / 100 mm   0.77" / 20 mm      1.77" / 45 mm
   2nd:   2.95" / 75 mm         -         1.77" / 45 mm
   3rd:   0.77" / 20 mm         -         0.77" / 20 mm

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.77" / 45 mm
   Forecastle: 0.77" / 20 mm  Quarter deck: 0.77" / 20 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.95" / 100 mm, Aft 1.20" / 30 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 17 580 ihp / 13 115 Kw = 21.11 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 689 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   453 - 590

Cost:
   £0.848 million / $3.390 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 446 tons, 5.1 %
      - Guns: 444 tons, 5.0 %
      - Weapons: 3 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 1 537 tons, 17.5 %
      - Belts: 807 tons, 9.2 %
      - Armament: 108 tons, 1.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 576 tons, 6.5 %
      - Conning Towers: 47 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 3 168 tons, 36.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 279 tons, 25.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 302 tons, 14.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 70 tons, 0.8 %
      - On freeboard deck: 70 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     5 885 lbs / 2 669 Kg = 26.3 x 7.7 " / 194 mm shells or 3.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.59
   Metacentric height 5.0 ft / 1.5 m   Roll period: 11.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 80 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.27
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.59

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.575 / 0.584
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.80 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.46 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1.00 ft / 0.30 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   18.00 %,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m,  14.77 ft / 4.50 m
      - Forward deck:   28.00 %,  14.77 ft / 4.50 m,  13.77 ft / 4.20 m
      - Aft deck:   38.00 %,  13.77 ft / 4.20 m,  13.77 ft / 4.20 m
      - Quarter deck:   16.00 %,  13.77 ft / 4.20 m,  13.77 ft / 4.20 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.16 ft / 4.32 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 133.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 114.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 19 428 Square feet or 1 805 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 90 lbs/sq ft or 440 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.26
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

[miketr]

And a protected cruiser.  I'd have used a 100mm secondary battery, but the Austrians haven't developed that yet.

SMS Zenta, Austrian Protected Cruiser laid down 1895

Displacement:
   3,388 t light; 3,499 t standard; 3,842 t normal; 4,117 t full load

KWorld thanks for the design files.

I made some modifications to the PC design provided.  Increased length slightly and put in 120mm weapons in place of the 70mm.

PC-1895-A, Austrian Protected Cruiser laid down 1895

Displacement:
   3,500 t light; 3,640 t standard; 3,993 t normal; 4,275 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (377.45 ft / 367.45 ft) x 43.64 ft x (17.22 / 18.14 ft)
   (115.05 m / 112.00 m) x 13.30 m  x (5.25 / 5.53 m)

Armament:
      2 - 7.48" / 190 mm 45.0 cal guns - 213.85lbs / 97.00kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1895 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 4.72" / 120 mm 45.0 cal guns - 53.18lbs / 24.12kg shells, 300 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 3.00lbs / 1.36kg shells, 400 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 664 lbs / 301 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   2.95" / 75 mm   238.85 ft / 72.80 m   4.10 ft / 1.25 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.97" / 50 mm         -         1.97" / 50 mm
   2nd:   0.59" / 15 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.38" / 35 mm
   Forecastle: 1.38" / 35 mm  Quarter deck: 1.38" / 35 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 2.95" / 75 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 11,009 ihp / 8,213 Kw = 21.00 kts
   Range 4,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 635 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   250 - 326

Cost:
   £0.427 million / $1.708 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 153 tons, 3.8 %
      - Guns: 153 tons, 3.8 %
   Armour: 432 tons, 10.8 %
      - Belts: 121 tons, 3.0 %
      - Armament: 19 tons, 0.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 276 tons, 6.9 %
      - Conning Tower: 16 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 1,808 tons, 45.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,094 tons, 27.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 492 tons, 12.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 12 tons, 0.3 %
      - Hull above water: 12 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,727 lbs / 783 Kg = 8.3 x 7.5 " / 190 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.51
   Metacentric height 2.9 ft / 0.9 m
   Roll period: 10.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.22
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.30

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.506 / 0.514
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.42 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.17 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 4.00 ft / 1.22 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  14.76 ft / 4.50 m,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      10.68 ft / 3.26 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 159.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 83.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 10,742 Square feet or 998 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 86 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 71 lbs/sq ft or 346 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.32
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Miscellaneous weight allows for 3 above-water 16" torpedo tubes (bow, port, & starboard), with 9 reload torpedoes.

[KWorld]

KWorld thanks for the design files.

I made some modifications to the PC design provided.  Increased length slightly and put in 120mm weapons in place of the 70mm.

As long as you develop the 120mm, that's fine.  :)  I figure when I'm kicking up a design for someone else, provide the design file so they can modify it as needed.

[KWorld]

The one thing that I'd worry about the new design is that anti-TB firepower seems a bit light: all you've got is 2 120mm and 4 3 pounders per side.

[miketr]

The one thing that I'd worry about the new design is that anti-TB firepower seems a bit light: all you've got is 2 120mm and 4 3 pounders per side.

Oh I know, it would be better to ditch the 19 cm mains for another four 12 cm QF.  My main worry was to get the design to 3,500 tons and 12 cm weapons.  I will refine the design later on.

Michael

[KWorld]

SMS Zenta, Austrian Protected Cruiser laid down 1895

Displacement:
   3,082 t light; 3,186 t standard; 3,509 t normal; 3,768 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (355.15 ft / 344.49 ft) x 43.47 ft x (16.40 / 17.31 ft)
   (108.25 m / 105.00 m) x 13.25 m  x (5.00 / 5.28 m)

Armament:
      8 - 4.72" / 120 mm 45.0 cal guns - 53.17lbs / 24.12kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1895 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 3.00lbs / 1.36kg shells, 400 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 449 lbs / 204 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   2.95" / 75 mm   344.49 ft / 105.00 m   4.10 ft / 1.25 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.97" / 50 mm         -         1.97" / 50 mm

   - Protected deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.38" / 35 mm
   Forecastle: 1.38" / 35 mm  Quarter deck: 1.38" / 35 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 2.95" / 75 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 9,497 ihp / 7,084 Kw = 20.50 kts
   Range 4,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 583 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   227 - 296

Cost:
   £0.365 million / $1.461 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 121 tons, 3.4 %
      - Guns: 121 tons, 3.4 %
   Armour: 466 tons, 13.3 %
      - Belts: 154 tons, 4.4 %
      - Armament: 41 tons, 1.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 256 tons, 7.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 15 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 1,537 tons, 43.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 946 tons, 26.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 428 tons, 12.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 12 tons, 0.3 %
      - Hull above water: 12 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,632 lbs / 740 Kg = 30.9 x 4.7 " / 120 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.46
   Metacentric height 2.8 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 11.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.18
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.23

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.500 / 0.509
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.92 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.56 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 57
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 4.10 ft / 1.25 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      10.10 ft / 3.08 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 153.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 82.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 9,978 Square feet or 927 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 86 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 67 lbs/sq ft or 327 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.28
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Miscellaneous weight allows for 3 above-water 16" torpedo tubes (bow, port, & starboard), with 9 reload torpedoes.

[miketr]

Looking for torpedo Designs.

TB, 250 tons, 47mm QF, 3TT, best possible speed
DD, 500 tons, 70mm/47mm QF, 2TT, best possible speed

[KWorld]

TBD, Austria Torpedo boat destroyer laid down 1898

Displacement:
   495 t light; 510 t standard; 584 t normal; 644 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (255.23 ft / 252.62 ft) x 23.79 ft x (8.20 / 8.76 ft)
   (77.79 m / 77.00 m) x 7.25 m  x (2.50 / 2.67 m)

Armament:
      3 - 2.76" / 70.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 9.90lbs / 4.49kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1898 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      4 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 3.00lbs / 1.36kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1898 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 42 lbs / 19 kg

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 10,040 ihp / 7,490 Kw = 27.00 kts
   Range 2,800nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 133 tons (100% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   59 - 77

Cost:
   £0.070 million / $0.278 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 9 tons, 1.5 %
      - Guns: 9 tons, 1.5 %
   Machinery: 356 tons, 61.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 127 tons, 21.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 90 tons, 15.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 2 tons, 0.3 %
      - On freeboard deck: 2 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     111 lbs / 50 Kg = 10.6 x 2.8 " / 70 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.35
   Metacentric height 1.0 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 10.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 82 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.10
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.94

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.415 / 0.428
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.62 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.89 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 88
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  14.76 ft / 4.50 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Forward deck:   15.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Aft deck:   50.00 %,  6.56 ft / 2.00 m,  6.56 ft / 2.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  6.56 ft / 2.00 m,  6.56 ft / 2.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      8.99 ft / 2.74 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 200.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 97.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 3,733 Square feet or 347 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 18 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 20 lbs/sq ft or 98 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 1.00
      - Overall: 0.53
   Extremely poor machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

Carries 2 torpedoes in single center-line roatable mounts.


Trials speed 30.08 knots
Range at cruise speed of 10 knots is 2800 nm.

[KWorld]

TB, Austria Torpedo boat laid down 1897

Displacement:
   241 t light; 247 t standard; 265 t normal; 278 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (198.59 ft / 196.85 ft) x 18.86 ft x (6.56 / 6.78 ft)
   (60.53 m / 60.00 m) x 5.75 m  x (2.00 / 2.07 m)

Armament:
      3 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 3.00lbs / 1.36kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1897 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 9 lbs / 4 kg

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 4,927 ihp / 3,676 Kw = 25.00 kts
   Range 1,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 31 tons (100% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   32 - 42

Cost:
   £0.032 million / $0.128 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2 tons, 0.8 %
      - Guns: 2 tons, 0.8 %
   Machinery: 164 tons, 61.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 72 tons, 27.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 23 tons, 8.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 3 tons, 1.1 %
      - On freeboard deck: 3 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     55 lbs / 25 Kg = 17.3 x 1.9 " / 47 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
   Metacentric height 0.5 ft / 0.2 m
   Roll period: 10.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 93 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.06
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.06

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.380 / 0.387
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.43 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14.03 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 88
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m,  12.30 ft / 3.75 m
      - Forward deck:   8.00 %,  12.30 ft / 3.75 m,  12.30 ft / 3.75 m
      - Aft deck:   57.00 %,  6.56 ft / 2.00 m,  6.56 ft / 2.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  6.56 ft / 2.00 m,  6.56 ft / 2.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      7.97 ft / 2.43 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 201.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 97.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 2,256 Square feet or 210 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 16 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 17 lbs/sq ft or 82 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 1.64
      - Overall: 0.57
   Extremely poor machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Carries 1 torpedoes in a single center-line roatable mount, with 2 more in fixed deck mounts.


Trials speed31.34 knots

[Tanthalas]

so knowing the situation in the med as I do (seriously ACs under 20 knots need to just go away there) I came up with this little toy for your study.  Now like Jef I dont feal that 2 main guns is enough so I gave her 4, and a 5K@10 range.  she has 116 tons left over in a building/whatever reserve.  I also included the SS file so you can play with her if ya want to.

Kaiserin, Austria-Hungary Armored Cruiser laid down 1898

Displacement:
   6,000 t light; 6,269 t standard; 6,848 t normal; 7,311 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (393.00 ft / 393.00 ft) x 47.00 ft x (24.00 / 25.27 ft)
   (119.79 m / 119.79 m) x 14.33 m  x (7.32 / 7.70 m)

Armament:
      4 - 9.45" / 240 mm 40.0 cal guns - 308.65lbs / 140.00kg shells, 90 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1898 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 5.91" / 150 mm 40.0 cal guns - 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1898 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      16 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 44.0 cal guns - 3.12lbs / 1.42kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1898 Model
     16 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      16 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2,085 lbs / 946 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5.98" / 152 mm   305.12 ft / 93.00 m   9.84 ft / 3.00 m
   Ends:   3.94" / 100 mm     87.86 ft / 26.78 m   8.20 ft / 2.50 m
     Main Belt covers 119 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   7.99" / 203 mm   1.97" / 50 mm      5.98" / 152 mm
   2nd:   1.97" / 50 mm   1.97" / 50 mm            -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.48" / 63 mm
   Forecastle: 1.50" / 38 mm  Quarter deck: 1.50" / 38 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 5.98" / 152 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 12,615 ihp / 9,411 Kw = 20.00 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,042 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   376 - 489

Cost:
   £0.665 million / $2.661 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 434 tons, 6.3 %
      - Guns: 434 tons, 6.3 %
   Armour: 1,704 tons, 24.9 %
      - Belts: 834 tons, 12.2 %
      - Armament: 262 tons, 3.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 561 tons, 8.2 %
      - Conning Tower: 46 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 2,035 tons, 29.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,711 tons, 25.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 848 tons, 12.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 116 tons, 1.7 %
      - On freeboard deck: 116 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     4,126 lbs / 1,872 Kg = 9.8 x 9.4 " / 240 mm shells or 0.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
   Metacentric height 2.0 ft / 0.6 m
   Roll period: 14.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.74
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.31

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.541 / 0.548
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.36 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.82 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Aft deck:   43.00 %,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Quarter deck:   12.00 %,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.15 ft / 3.70 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 119.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 76.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 12,780 Square feet or 1,187 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 91 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 90 lbs/sq ft or 439 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.71
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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Modification of CBB, increase in size.  A little better range, improved upper belt, minor increase in speed and size pushed to 10K light tons.

Schwarzenburg, Austro-Hungarian Empire Coast Defence Battleship laid down 1896

Displacement:
   10,000 t light; 10,493 t standard; 11,139 t normal; 11,656 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (419.95 ft / 410.11 ft) x 65.62 ft x (24.61 / 25.54 ft)
   (128.00 m / 125.00 m) x 20.00 m  x (7.50 / 7.78 m)

Armament:
      4 - 9.45" / 240 mm 45.0 cal guns - 374.79lbs / 170.00kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1895 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 7.48" / 190 mm 45.0 cal guns - 213.85lbs / 97.00kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1895 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      12 - 5.91" / 150 mm 45.0 cal guns - 99.87lbs / 45.30kg shells, 180 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1896 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in any sea
      12 - 2.76" / 70.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 9.90lbs / 4.49kg shells, 400 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
     4 x Single mounts layout not set
      4 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 3,672 lbs / 1,665 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   246.06 ft / 75.00 m   9.71 ft / 2.96 m
   Ends:   5.91" / 150 mm   164.01 ft / 49.99 m   9.71 ft / 2.96 m
   Upper:   9.45" / 240 mm   246.06 ft / 75.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 92 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   8.27" / 210 mm      9.45" / 240 mm
   2nd:   7.09" / 180 mm   4.72" / 120 mm      5.91" / 150 mm
   3rd:   4.72" / 120 mm         -         3.94" / 100 mm

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.56" / 65 mm
   Forecastle: 1.97" / 50 mm  Quarter deck: 2.56" / 65 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 12.60" / 320 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 12,000 ihp / 8,952 Kw = 18.15 kts
   Range 4,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,164 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   541 - 704

Cost:
   £0.934 million / $3.735 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 824 tons, 7.4 %
      - Guns: 824 tons, 7.4 %
   Armour: 4,295 tons, 38.6 %
      - Belts: 2,440 tons, 21.9 %
      - Armament: 809 tons, 7.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 910 tons, 8.2 %
      - Conning Tower: 135 tons, 1.2 %
   Machinery: 2,000 tons, 18.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,695 tons, 24.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,139 tons, 10.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 187 tons, 1.7 %
      - Hull below water: 175 tons
      - Hull above water: 12 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     11,038 lbs / 5,007 Kg = 26.2 x 9.4 " / 240 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
   Metacentric height 3.6 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 14.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.37
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.22

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.589 / 0.594
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.25 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.25 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m
      - Average freeboard:      11.48 ft / 3.50 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 85.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 78.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 19,476 Square feet or 1,809 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 98 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 114 lbs/sq ft or 558 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.46
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Miscellaneous weight allows for 4 broadside above water 16" torpedo tubes and 8 reload torpedoes.

175 Misc Tons as Ballast